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Monday, September 06, 2021

It's an Agenda when the FDA Lies about Ivermectin

Covid-19 is a contagious disease. Though over 99% of people infected with it will survive, hundreds of thousands of Americans will die from complications related to catching Covid.  All Americans will eventually be infected with Covid since it is more contagious than the flu and there will be no cure. Some people will have Covid and experience long-haul symptoms. Most people will get sick with Covid and recover fully. 

One death is too many. That is why the United States should do everything possible to mitigate Covid's disease symptoms.

And that is why it is a crime against humanity for the U.S. Center for Disease Control (CDC) and the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) as well as other U.S. government agencies to lie about ivermectin to U.S. citizens. 

That's right. Government agencies charged with public health are outright lying to us, trying to pretend ivermectin is "dangerous to humans," "made for animals," and should be avoided at all costs. 

There are 63 peer-reviewed scientific studies on the effectiveness of ivermectin in the battle against SARS-CoV-2. Ivermectin works. Ivermectin saves lives. It's been proven over and over again. But the United States FDA and CDC, as well as America's media, seem intent on either covering up the effectiveness of ivermectin or outright lying about it. 

For example, a recent national story appeared declaring that people in Oklahoma were "overdosing on ivermectin" and keeping emergency rooms clogged. I know a thing or two about Oklahoma hospitals. That story is not true. It is an outright lie, In fact, the very hospital mentioned in the story released a statement this past weekend

"Although Dr. Jason McElyea is not an employee of NHS Sequoyah, he is affiliated with a medical staffing group that provides coverage for our emergency room. With that said, Dr. McElyea has not worked at our Sallisaw location in over 2 months. NHS Sequoyah has not treated any patients due to complications related to taking ivermectin. This includes not treating any patients for ivermectin overdose. All patients who have visited our emergency room have received medical attention as appropriate. Our hospital has not had to turn away any patients seeking emergency care. We want to reassure our community that our staff is working hard to provide quality healthcare to all patients. We appreciate the opportunity to clarify this issue and as always, we value our community's support."
You would have thought that the New York Times, ABC News, the Washington Post, and other leading news media outlets would have checked their facts before publishing such a nonsensical story about ivermectin overdoses. But no, it seems the agenda is to keep American citizens from thinking ivermectin is a safe, effective drug that mitigates Covid-19 symptoms. 

As another example, the FDA tweeted the following:


For the FDA to lie so blatantly, so publicly, about ivermectin, tells me that there is an agenda in the highest levels of government. The FDA themselves APPROVED Ivermectin for human consumption in 1996. Pharmaceutical-grade Ivermectin has been used for human consumption for DECADES. It is safe, cheap, accessible, and most of all, effective against the symptoms of Covid-19.

In fact, the U.S. federal government through the CDC is giving ivermectin to all AFGHANI REFUGEES that they are bringing to the United States. Do they think Afghanees are horses or cows? Of course not. They know that ivermectin is safe and effective against parasitic disease or they would not be prescribing it.  The following is from the CDC's own guidance for incoming refugees from the Middle East, Asia, Africa, Latin America, and the Caribbean. 


Ivermectin saves lives. Look at this chart from Africa. It is a comparison of the death rate in countries that use Ivermectin with those that don't use Ivermectin. Look how stunningly low the death rates are where Ivermectin is used.




But it is not just African lives that have been saved by Ivermectin. India's Covid-19 problem disappeared with the widespread distribution of Ivermectin to India's massive population.

Ivermectin is not a cure for Covid-19. There is no cure. Ivermectin is a cheap, effective, accessible, and safe drug that mitigates Covid-19's symptoms. If a person takes Vitamin C, D, and Zinc daily, and then has access to human-grade pharmaceutical ivermectin at the onset of symptoms, they can greatly reduce their risk of hospitalization and death, by as much as over 90%. 
"I have long been convinced that Nature has all the solutions we need to solve our past ... that will be the primary source of the treasures and solutions that we seek." ~Professor Satashi Omura, Nobel co-laureate for the discovery of ivermectin.
In March 2020, Dr. Satashi Omura, the Nobel Laureate discoverer of ivermectin, wrote in the Japanese Journal of Antibiotics that he hopes "ivermectin will be utilized as a countermeasure for COVID-19 as soon as possible." Ten years ago, Dr. Omura observed: "Ivermectin has continually proved to be astonishingly safe for human use. Indeed, it is such a safe drug, with minimal side effects, that it can be administered by non-medical staff and even illiterate individuals in remote rural communities, provided that they have had some very basic, appropriate training."

There are 8 things ivermectin does in mitigating the symptoms of Covid-19, keeping those who take it out of the hospital. Dr. Ryan Cole, a brilliant Mayo Clinic-trained pathologist, succinctly listed these eight different mechanisms in an exclusive interview with TheBlaze:

1. It inhibits binding at ACE2 and TMPRSS2, keeping the virus from entering our cells.

2. It blocks alpha/beta importin (the virus cell taxi), keeping it from getting to the nucleus.

3. It blocks the viral replicase zipper (RdRp).

4. It keeps the virus from assembling (3-Chimotrypsin protease inhibition).

5. Ivermectin strengthens our natural antiviral cell activity by increasing our natural interferon production (this counters SARSCOV2 activity, which inhibits cellular interferon).

6. It decreases IL-6 and other inflammatory cytokines through NF Kappa Beta downregulation, taking the patient from a cytokine storm to calm.

7. It binds NSP14, necessary for viral replication, and blocks it (equals less virus).

8. The most important mechanism is inhibiting binding to CD147 receptor on red cells, platelets, lung, and blood cell lining. Ivermectin keeps the virus from binding here and decreases deadly clotting.
There are several effective ways to mitigate the symptoms of Covid-19, but our United States government seems to want the masses to conform to only one - a therapeutic shot - and then to "keep track of those who have the shot" while making life difficult for those who don't.  

Covid will never be eradicated like measles and polio because Covid comes from the animal kingdom, unlike measles and polio. Even though we can not eradicate Covid, we all should do our part to decrease its symptoms. 

I write about Covid a great deal because there are two huge issues that Americans need to think through:

1. First, though Covid-19 is serious, it is minor compared to previous worldwide pandemics. However, the "powers that be" (WHO, the World Economic Forum, the FDA, the CDC, and the CCP) seem to have chosen Covid-19 as the trigger for a "great reset" for our world, moving nations toward a one-world unified government, a digital world currency controlled by the WEF, and top-down governmental control of the masses. 

2. My second concern, is that people are believing the lies and letting government leaders get by with their crimes. When the CDC declares that NOBODY HAS TO PAY RENT ANYMORE because COVID IS SO SERIOUS, then the United States has turned into a communistic government run by dictators. Sure, the United States Supreme Court OVERTURNED the absurd CDC guideline, but our PRESIDENT supported it. 

We are in trouble in the United States. And it is NOT COVID.  

We have leaders in our government lying to "we, the people" and either too many people are disengaged and quiet or too trusting and naive to do anything about it. There's a "great reset" coming. It will affect your finances, your ability to travel, your bank accounts, and your job. 

That's why I write about Covid-19 so much. 

97 comments:

RB Kuter said...

The "misinformation" out there should lead anyone to suspect all that is given, especially, by the official health community.

Sorry if my personal account is repetitive of what I have said before, but I can't get over it and feel led to say it again:

I took Ivermectin for about the first 5 days of having tested positive for COVID. Got it from friends in another country because my doctor refused to facilitate my getting that OR any other treatment for COVID not subscribed by the "system".

I stopped taking it after about 5 days but only because my wife was not taking it and her symptoms were as mild as mine. We were both just blessed with having non-serious symptoms, although it did take us about 14 days to recover. I never had ANY harmful side-effects from taking the Ivermectin and perhaps it actually did help me although I did not continue taking it through the course of my illness.

We are so VERY glad that we did not get the vaccination but only due to "possible" side effects that might be associated with that. We don't condemn anyone who gets the needle, but it is not our choice. We simply do not consider ANY of the establishment health care sources these days as being credible or forthright in giving all details. I am sad to say that we have totally lost confidence in our doctor or any of the medical institution resources due to their coordinated efforts to mislead, neglect alternative approaches to healing, and blatantly misguide patients.

Given what appears to us as being blatant, undeniable, evidence of the system giving non-credible information, why would we believe anything they say or promote? Why would be believe a system that refuses to "treat" COVID patients early on into their being tested positive but take the response to send people home only to get so bad they have to be hospitalized?

The doctor told me on the 14th day following being testing positive and being fully recovered (I had gone in to have a follow-up test), "You need to get vaccinated." I asked, "Why would I do that?? I have had it and am now immune."

She responded, "Yeah, but you don't know for how long."

I said, "Well we know that vaccines last maybe 6 months, right? Then you have to have more. I feel victimized by all of this COVID nonsense because valid reports reveal it is a "man-made/engineered" virus intentionally created and then released into the public. It is a totally unnecessary plague instituted by man. I see valid reports on this having been engineered in the CDC in the US and then the US co-conspiring with China to develop it. You are a doctor and must have more access to this information than me!"

At that point she did not respond but left the room flustered. I did apologize for offending her and assured her I appreciated her working hard for people.

It is a "mad house" out there. Very treacherous, wicked, evil, and dark with demonic forces at play to accommodate the agenda of some very powerful, strategic, players.

Call me someone who believes in this being a conspiracy but it is to evident to be considered a conspiracy "theory". It is reality.

(I do give GOD the credit and glory for my wife and I surviving and not having had a much worse time of it. To HIM be the glory. We can and do trust HIM and seek His guidance as to our approach on all these matters.)

Wade Burleson said...

Amen, RB.

Amen.

Wade Burleson said...

RB Kuter,

Your approach may have actually (by God's grace) saved your's and your wife's lives - 5 years from now.

Antibody Dependence Enhancement (ADE) and High Zone Tolerance (HZT) are created when a populace becomes vaccine-dependent during a pandemic. In short, MANDATED vaccinations (by the government) drives the populace to a "common end-point" (in SARS-CoV-2, that endpoint is a remarkable similarity in B-cell reaction) so that the EVOLVING virus (think, "variants") will eventually produce a strain called an "escape mutant" (look it up). It is a supervirus that avoids (escapes) the immune system created by mandated vaccination.

The analogy most readers would understand is indiscriminately giving antibiotics to the populace, creating superbugs - antibiotic-resistant bacterial infections. We are ALREADY seeing that happen in hospitals, and the same principle applies to viruses.

The immunity that comes from getting the disease - and by God's grace recovering - is much more effective, long-lasting, and much more resistant to future variants (super-viruses) than worldwide vaccine dependency.

I'm just calling on readers to READ, THINK, and TAKE ACTION that is best for you and your family.

Wade Burleson said...

Vaccines ARE beneficial when reserved for the elderly and those at high risk due to comorbidities.

Vaccines ARE detrimental when MANDATED for everyone.

That is basic virology and immunology.

Christiane said...

It may be that the FDA has 'history' with Donald Trump as its adversary. How much of the following is reliable and valid would require more investigation, but it looks like 'politics' was involved in attacking the reputation of the FDA:

https://www.statnews.com/2020/08/27/trump-has-launched-an-all-out-attack-on-the-fda-will-its-scientific-integrity-survive/

One thing is sure: the virus is NOT political. It kills without regard for its victims' beliefs.

My thought these days is shielding the children from the harm of misinformation and politically-directed culture wars regarding the virus and its new variants which are increasingly attacking the younger populations including our children.

Politics and religion are one thing.
But a child's health is dependent on the good will and common sense of our people and we do have many trained physicians and nurse practitioners who SPECIALIZE in child health care. When a parent who loves their child opts to take their child out of the nation's health care system for political reasons, I fear for the child's well-being, and I know that the parent is mis-guided by misinformation for sure.

Wade Burleson said...

Christianne,

Children are getting sick from RSV, not Covid.

The survival rate of children with Covid is nearly 100%.

The survival rate of children with RSV is significantly lower.

Rex Ray said...

With this bad news, just got more; my sister Ann took a turn for the worse in having dementia. Her husband called, asking for prayer.

Wade Burleson said...

Rex,

Prayers for your sister, Ann - and for her husband as well.

Wade

RB Kuter said...

I wonder if "Trump-haters" will ever be capable of rational thinking again?

Christiane said...

Thanks for responding, WADE.
I'm for physicians to make the call about what diagnosis and treatment is right for a sick child, and I think, for the most part, you might agree with me on that at least.
I do know that children now are getting sick and being hospitalized now at a higher rate than earlier in the pandemic, whatever their 'diagnosis' is called.

The 'delta' variant appears to be more able to infect younger victims than the original covid-19 virus.


REX RAY, very sorry to hear about your sister Ann's relapse. I know you are worried. I will also pray for her and the whole family. Maybe the doctors need to adjust and monitor her meds to stabilize her better? (I don't know the particulars, but 'meds' came to mind.)

Hello Mr. Kuter
try to look beyond the current troubles and rest so you can get better

for all of us, there are those in the world among us who help 'bear one another's burdens' and in doing so, they give us encouragement to continue on with a calm patience and at peace with one another for as long as it is possible in this sad world where suffering is:
https://youtu.be/uTpmQI0VoSI





RB Kuter said...

Thanks, Christiane

RB Kuter said...

Thank you for that long-term perspective on the collateral impact of repeatedly having mass vaccinations, Wade. Makes sense to me.

I attribute you as being a credible source of information on such things because you do considerable research prior to posting. I am also sure there are those "pro-vac" sources that would contradict your conclusions based on reports by sources bent on disputing it and supporting their position.

For my wife and I, at least, we do consider claims coming from both sides and then seek to season it with reason, assessments based upon former information (i.e., very credible, multiple, reports of this being an intentionally engineered virus) and yes, seek God's guidance through prayer recognizing He NEVER changes. We do express our position when asked (sometimes) and I feel comfortable in doing so on an open forum like this but try not to impose our position on those who have a contrary opinion.

Wade Burleson said...

RB Kuter,

Like you, I never question - much less denigrate - the personal medical decision of another person. I respect and support their decision, believing it is RIGHT for them.

Also, like you, I only speak out about MY PERSONAL MEDICAL DECISION (and make it known) because some people seem more interested in me than themselves.

I advocated freedom, and the freedom to make individual medical decisions without being coerced by outside forces is the bedrock of liberty.

We hung Nazi scientists for performing experiments on unwilling patients.

Now we praise scientists who wish to do the same.

Unbelievable to me.

Rex Ray said...

God answer prayers!

My sister, Ann, is her old self again. Praise God.

Christiane said...

sometimes a picture is worth a thousand words

I have to sympathize when it seems like 'the others' are trying to make health decisions for you and your family. It happens a lot in our nation where those who are not 'in tune' with someone's situation thinks they know 'best' what works for all concerned. Most mean well, but still . . .

I found a photo that was entitled:
" . . . meanwhile, at today's meeting on feline (cat) health care"

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C7qSZWqUwAEwTn9?format=jpg&name=900x900

Rex Ray said...

CHRISTIANE,

Your circle of dogs are cute. At the far end is a big blond fuzzy dog that is like my daughters. He likes to play with their four cats, and they love it.

Today, Judy was on a ladder getting ride of bagworms, but there was a bunch in the top of the tree.

I can add to my list of wild animals killed, as I shot them with a shotgun. :)

Christiane said...

'nothing new under the sun' :)


How strange that the poetry of our humankind's feeble attempts to live the golden rule with intensity shows up even within the Word itself:

"The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be;
and that which is done is that which shall be done:
and there is no new thing under the sun." (Ecclesiastes 1)



In hopes of coming to better comprehend the vagaries of our human nature,
I set out to read about the history of peoples' reaction to the first vaccinations, and I found that, for smallpox in the early 1800's (200 years ago),
'personal liberty' was mentioned even then:

"For some parents, the smallpox vaccination itself induced fear and protest. It included scoring the flesh on a child’s arm, and inserting lymph from the blister of a person who had been vaccinated about a week earlier. Some objectors, including the local clergy, believed that the vaccine was “unchristian” because it came from an animal.[3] For other anti-vaccinators, their discontent with the smallpox vaccine reflected their general distrust in medicine and in Jenner’s ideas about disease spread. Suspicious of the vaccine’s efficacy, some skeptics alleged that smallpox resulted from decaying matter in the atmosphere.[4] Lastly, many people objected to vaccination because they believed it violated their personal liberty, a tension that worsened as the government developed mandatory vaccine policies.[3]"

NOTE: the reference (3) refers to this: (Durbach, N. They might as well brand us: Working class resistance to compulsory vaccination in Victorian England. The Society for the Social History of Medicine. 2000;13:45-62.)

https://www.historyofvaccines.org/content/articles/history-anti-vaccination-movements


Rex Ray said...

CHRISTIANE,

Google, “Big Dipper Fairbanks, Alaska”

You’ll see many pictures of the hanger that my brother, Hez, named Big Dipper. He also taught school eleven years and is in their Hall of Fame.

He also helped to organize:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_Olympic_Games.

Anon.E.Moose said...

I remember as a child/young adult thinking that *everything* published in the New York Times *had* to be true. Approximately 20 years ago, I became aware that everything was not true, and that realization has only become more apparent over time.

I recently heard a book reviewed on a podcast "The Gray Lady Winked: How the New York Times's Misreporting, Distortions and Fabrications Radically Alter History." I haven't read the book yet, but they were describing how back in the 1800's and early 1900's newspapers were political mouth pieces. Papers have names like "the Republican Courier" and "The Democratic Gazette" because they promised to espouse the viewpoints of that party. What has happened in the US, is some odd idea (that I learned as a pup), that journalist provide access to facts and report said facts. With the rise of social media, everything has turned into sound bites and there was been little "journalising" -- little investigation and reporting of the facts. In truth, most "reporting" is just a long, on-going commentary. Unfortunately, at some point news was advertised as "non-biased" and people believe that. It is not, and the loss of the labels has been, in my mind now, detrimental.

People want to have faith. God designed us to be a faithful, devout people. However, many people have placed their faith in the wrong things.....as we have become blessed we have become soft and arrogant. In this pandemic, we have witnessed the call to the Alter of the Science; however, what many people fail to realize is that Alter is not God. It can help us (because I believe that God gave us intelligence and the ability to understand a create) but it can not save us.

I have zero doubt that the US has been active in gain of function research. Hello? Why would there be a "pause" placed on such research if we were not doing it? The question is, "was gain of function research done on the SARS virus?" and the answer to that is "yes" and can be found in published papers. If Dr. Fauci had acknowledged that, and explained the rational behind funding that sort of research, I would have no problem. The fact that he denied it, because politically it looks really bad right now, makes me very much question how many other things he is lying about, including the push for certain therapeutics over others.

RB Kuter said...

"We hung Nazi scientists for performing experiments on unwilling patients.
Now we praise scientists who wish to do the same."

So true, and the total decadence and rot of spirit has been portrayed in even greater proportions than the "vaccine/plague" instigators when we consider the "hundreds of millions" of innocent infants that have be viciously slaughtered over these past decades primarily to accommodate the lack of personal discipline and inconvenience of adult parents. God help us!

How can anyone do the least amount of research about the procedures used to tear apart and acid-burn babies to death and not have a visceral reaction?

It is so repulsive to me to see the recent protests against legislation to protect the infants in Atlanta with hundreds of, mostly women, carrying signs that claim their right to kill babies. Only they of course use the Nazi-like, "WOKE", rhetoric claiming that it's all about "their rights" (to slaughter their children).

Perhaps I should be sensitive to the minute number of women who may have some rather plausible cause to kill the infant, although I cannot imagine what that would be. However, I cannot imagine God's judgment being contained over this greatest atrocity and injustice ever known to humanity.

Can we honestly refer to ourselves as "humane" in the least sense of the word? More like being godless monsters.

Wade Burleson said...

Anon E. Moose,

Bingo.

Wade Burleson said...

I will tell you what else he is lying about.

"The unvaccinated are causing variants of Covid. And if everybody doesn't get vaccinated, a superbug will be created that could kill the vaccinated."

That is so extraordinarily absurd that I think Fauci is delusional - or hoping to avoid prison with an uproar from the public when they arrest him.

It is the VACCINATED who are causing VARIANTS in the MIDST OF A PANDEMIC. Indiscriminately dosing otherwise healthy people with vaccines for viruses or antibiotics for bacterial disease CREATES superbugs.

Just downright crazy.

Rex Ray said...

Wade,

I’ll tell you something else that’s just downright crazy. If you’ve given money to a politician, you get on a list to give more.

Today, I woke from a good nap to answer the phone. This lady was trying to get me to give more money. I told her I’d given my share and hung up.

There were five letters in the mail today that I put in the trash without opening. I could tell by the return address, they wanted money.

Christiane said...

words of encouragement found in an ancient Christian evensong:
"From the ashes a flame will be woken. The broken again shall be whole."


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UZes-YUcjw

"That moment when you realize the music isn't too slow;
you've just been moving so fast"
(Emmerson Holt)

RB Kuter said...

Had a "50+ Adult" Committee meeting tonight and we were discussing as to whether we should take cautionary steps at our dinner tomorrow and a trip coming up in a couple of weeks. Considering options like whether we should put a couple less chairs at each table, etc.

The issue of "vaccinations" some how arose. It was amazing to my wife and I how those who are the most "militant" in their positions are all "pro-needle" people while those who have not, will not, get the needle are mostly "indifferent" as to what others do.

My wife and I have concluded that the more assertive, aggressive position of the "pro-needle" folks is due to "fear". My impression is that they are insecure in their decision and having those who take the opposite choice disturbs them.

For whatever reason, this entire issue is certainly being used by Satan to cause division, even within the church body, which is a very disappointing thing to observe.

RB Kuter said...

Sorry to dominate the chain, but want to share one more experience with a fellow believer yesterday.

He AND his entire family were struck with COVID the last couple of weeks. The man and the teen children all have gone through the symptoms and are close to full recovery, but his wife continues to struggle and had a much tougher time having more serious symptoms. Praise God, she is getting better, but continues to have sinus, lung, issues though not serious enough to cause hospitalization.

The man told me that he and his wife had had the vaccination because they felt it was the proper Christian thing to do in order to be good stewards of their bodies and protect others.

I was totally blown away at the lack of logic in all he said! What??!! You got the needle to be good stewards of your body and protect others and you and your wife had far worse symptoms than my wife and I who are 20 years older than you and never had the needle!!! I didn't say that, but I did ask him to please explain his reasoning. He has not responded.

Christiane said...

Am moving soon to a place nearer to the ocean, away from my home of thirty years that I shared with my dear husband;
but since his mortal remains are now buried at sea, I like to think I shall be nearer to the sea for my time remaining.
This is a good move in my eyes, yes. :)



"From the ashes a flame will be woken. The broken again shall be whole."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UZes-YUcjw

Christiane said...

Hello Mr. Kuter,

just a thought about what you wrote, this:

"The man told me that he and his wife had had the vaccination because they felt it was the proper Christian thing to do in order to be good stewards of their bodies and protect others."

If you wondered about the 'logic' of his words, may I remind you that among Christian people, we have been known to see beyond what is practical in the eyes of others. :) Don't worry for your friend. He is not 'lost'. Give him the grace you would hope for yourself from people like me who don't always agree with you, and all shall begin to come into accord with 'the peace of Christ' that is beyond our human logic. This won't 'make sense', I know, but that is a part of the mystery.

Neil Cameron (One Salient Oversight) said...

The science behind vaccinations goes like this:

No one Vaccinated: Covid spreads and kills people.

Everyone Vaccinated: Covid dies out.

Part of Society Vaccinated: Covid spreads among the unvaccinated, and then creates a vaccine-resistant variant.

As has been shared in most of the media: 99% of those in hospital suffering from Covid were not vaccinated.

Neil Cameron (One Salient Oversight) said...

https://www.sorryantivaxxer.com/

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Rex Ray said...

Today, on the Laura Ingraham Show, she showed Biden reading what his speech writers had written yesterday. (But in a few places, he stops reading and talks stupid.)

“This summer over a hundred million Americans that call home. By 2020 we will make sure all our electricity is zero missing.”

(I listened several times be sure that’s what he said.)

In the first place he doesn’t know what year it is, and what he said when many places in America lost electricity doesn’t make sense.

What he said last, makes you feel sorry for him:

“Now I’m supposed to stop and walk out of the room.”

In the words of my Father, “He’s lost his marbles.”

Lin said...

According to the inventor of the MRNA platform and drug, Dr. Robert Malone and other censored immunologist and virologist, it's just the opposite.


During a pandemic there should be no "universal" vaccination. Vaccinations should be for the most vulnerable. With the attempt at universal vaccination, vaccinated people actually replicate the virus more efficiently and more potently. For the unvaccinated, vaccinated people are the most dangerous. Now we are seeing that natural immunity from antibodies is the best long-term protection with no side effects, potential autoimmune problems in the future or fertility issues. A professor at George Mason University just won a lawsuit over this issue.

In the end, the vaccine should be a choice not a mandate from a tyrannical government twisting the arms of organizations. We have already entered a dystopian world where the triple booster vaxxers will be turning on the double booster vaxxers. Now Pfizer is introducing two pills a day along with your booster. One has to wonder if it's not a reformulation of ivermectin which has been on the market since the 1980s and there's no money in it. I never thought I would live to see the day when Democrats are in bed with big Pharma to the extent of taking away such medical choice liberties. Whatever happened to "my body my choice"? Do they only believe that when it comes to murdering babies?

Anon.E.Moose said...

RB, I am vaccinated. I chose to be vaccinated because a) I interact with a lot of people daily (I am essential and can not stay at home) b) I donate blood and through that process knew that I was not antibody positive, and c) my elderly mother, realizing that my job is "high risk" w.r.t. exposure was afraid that I would bring the virus to her. I shared that fear. I had already made peace with dying of this thing back when they told us that the death rate might be 20% and I was given no stay at home option. I made peace with dying of late unknown complications of the vaccine, if that happens. I figured, if it keeps me from getting the virus, reduces my risk of transmission, and side effects from the vaccine are less than the virus then I am being a good steward for my body and my community. If I die of a late complication of vaccination, I still lived my life, trying to the best for my community and myself. Life is imperfect. We all make imperfect decisions. This may have been mine.

When it comes to getting a booster (shot 3) MAJOR PAUSE from this person. I did not do well with my 2nd vaccine and someone is going to have to prove to me with a lot of data that I need the 3rd one.

I agree that much of the apparent aggression regarding vaccination comes from fear; however, part of it is the way that the narrative has been set up. You can choose to mask but your mask doesn't protect you -- the person across from you has to mask for it to be protective. (Let's choose to ignore the first question of how protective masking is as a starter). You can be vaccinated, but you can still transmit so everyone has to be vaccinated for there to be no transmission....but then there are breakthrough infections.....yeah, I know. The arguments stop making sense, but you have to follow The Science and The Science (tm) is what they tell you because they have the data which they will release when the news cycle has established their truth as the new gospel and when most of lost interest. When I was vaccinated and still had to mask, I began to realize that it was all very nutty.

At my work, I am aware of three COVID repeat infections. Two were in vaccinated individuals (had COVID summer 2020, got vaccinated, repeat COVID summer 2021), one was a young individual who just had bad luck. Vaccination might make this go away, but I think it will be endemic. COVID zero is a thing that will not happen. I think it will be slowly simmering because even when vaccination, there will be people who still get sick. Keep in mind that in Israel, 60% of their hospitalized patients in the last wave were vaccinated. They acknowledge that most of those 60% were over age 75 and infirm, but vaccination did not make it go away.

RB Kuter said...

Christiane, I am excited for you at your upcoming move to the ocean. I hope you have some family or close friends nearby to help in that transition of making it "home". We always found, whether in Zambia, Thailand, or the US, that it took me about 3 years living in a new place and then it seemed I woke up and thought, "This all seems like 'home' now! Seems more normal than the previous place I lived."

On my friend, no, I KNOW that guy is saved and totally redeemed. He has an amazing testimony of his walk with Christ. Like so many other issues and items of debate and dialogue, it's simply a matter of our having a different perspective and trying to understand the other's reasoning for having their position.

You and I have that sort of dialogue all the time.

RB Kuter said...

Anon.E.Moose, see, I TOTALLY get your reasoning and so appreciate your willingness to simply explain it. Believe me, I hold ZERO resentment, judgment, criticism for you because of your decision. I get it and am supportive of you having made your decision and believe that your choice is at least as likely to serve you well as mine does for me.

That's as it should be. You did NOT judge me or criticize me as you explained your position. You shared with me your personal decision and how you wrestled with discerning information exactly as do I.

Too bad more people do not take your respectful and kind approach to things. To me, THAT is "Christ-like".

RB Kuter said...

Rex Ray, I guess we are simply witnessing what has always been the case in "The President", no matter who that was, being influenced by power players close to his office. We never really know who is pulling the strings.

Sometimes I think it might be good for the current guy to step aside and then I think, "Who would I rather look at? Him or whoever replaces him?"

I have always been impressed by Biden's teeth. Wonder if I could get some of those?

Gerry Milligan said...

Wade, as much as I, a retired IMB missionary, appreciate your stand with the IMB trustees, I will not go to my auto mechanic for medical advice, and will not take medical advice from a pastor. Darrell Royal said, "Dance with the one who brought you," and theology is what made your blogs possible. I continue to check your blogs and if it is off of what I consider your strength, I skip it.

Rex Ray said...

Wade,

“Tattletale” here. Last two comments on Post 8-31-21 are BAD.

Christiane said...

REX RAY, as 'Tattletale here',
it sounds like you are the new AUNT BEE ! :) (just kidding)

Actually, I think Wade must really appreciate your help with the trolls.

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Neil Cameron (One Salient Oversight) said...

Rex Ray,

I checked what you said about Biden. I found a transcript of his speech and even listened to him at that point. None of what you said happened.

Also The Daily mail reports on Biden's "Now I‘m Supposed To Stop And Walk Out Of The Room Here’" :

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9971311/Im-supposed-walk-Biden-works-room-ignoring-aides-advice.html

President Joe Biden ignored instructions from aides and worked the room after giving a belated labor day speech to union leaders and members Wednesday.

'Now, I'm supposed to stop and walk out of the room here,' Biden said as he wrapped up his speech, which had been projected on a teleprompter. 'I'm going to stop, and with your permission, I'm going to walk into the room because I want to say hello to all of you.'

Neil Cameron (One Salient Oversight) said...

Res,

It sounds like Ingraham played different Biden speeches. So what you heard was not what Biden said in one speech, but several.

You said that Biden said " By 2020 we will make sure all our electricity is zero missing.”"

He actually said "By 2020 we will make sure all our electricity is zero EMISSIONS." He was talking about carbon emissions. Biden definitely made the mistake of saying 2020 when, if you listen in context, he was talking about future goals. He should've said 2030. But he's human and can make those sorts of mistakes. He's not losing his marbles.

David K said...

So sad to see this once-reputable blog again falling so low. Readers might like to check this out, unless of course you think Reuters, the UK and the European Union are all in on the scam with the US Government.

https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-afghanistan-refugees-idUSL1N2Q605Q

And by the way, 'Afghani' is the currency of Afghanistan. Afghans are the people of Afghanistan.

RB Kuter said...

So, Gerry, it is not appropriate for people involved in ministry, like pastors, but we "retired" IMB missionaries as well, are not to seek to be informed and speak to issues taking place that effect all of us in society?

I find that those taking your opposing position that Wade, or other ministers, are off course for quoting information from experts in various fields because they are not endorsing your personal views.

These are not simply "political" issues. They involve moral application, personal liberty and freedom, injustice, persecution of the vulnerable and weak at the hands of the strong and powerful, and persecution of the church. What would a conscientious minister or follower of Jesus Christ do? Be complacent? Silent? Supportive of the injustice?

Or would it be more consistent with God and His Word to speak out against those powers suppressing the weak? IF a person does speak out, should they speak out from total ignorance or seek to have information available from various and diverse sources available?

Your position just does not hold water in my bucket. You applaud Wade for speaking out against the corrupt IMB system when he was involved, but oppose his being active regarding issues in which you have an opposing viewpoint. Perhaps you opposed him for speaking out against the corruption at SWBTS, women in ministry, as well if it was not consistent with your position.

I wouldn't dance with the one who brought me to the dance if it was revealed he/she was the devil.

I thank God for your obedience in going to the mission field. Perhaps we crossed paths along the way, but I don't think so. We were in Zambia and then Thailand so perhaps missed each other. God bless.

Scott Shaver said...

Who are “our people” Christianne?

Afraid that you and I run with different crowds. Especially when it comes to the nature of your “concern for children”.

Scott Shaver said...

Sounds like you’ve got it bass ackwards.

Scott Shaver said...

Low enough to meet your standards and draw your participation, obviously:)

Rex Ray said...

Neil Cameron,

I want to congratulate you; your picture looks much better than an eyeball.

I thought Biden was off by two years on what he said about electricity, but you said he was off ten years because “he’s human…He’s not losing his marbles”.

What Commander-in Chief of the Military has ever surrendered to the enemy; left tanks, guns, etc. worth billions of dollars to be used by the enemy, and removed Military before American civilians? I won’t mention the mess he’s caused at the Texas border.

You’re right about one thing; he’s not losing his marbles because he’s already lost them.

P.S.
I’ll bet you’re a Democrat.

Neil Cameron (One Salient Oversight) said...

Rex,

The point is that the Ingraham piece you spoke of didn't depict Biden as a speech-addled man who has lost his marbles.

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RB Kuter said...

David K., I'm confused by the point you were trying to make by showing the link portraying the false reporting on Ivermectin being given to Afghans. The link showed that twitter report was false, right?

How does that relate to whatever has been mentioned on this blog regarding Ivermectin?

Rex Ray said...

Twenty years ago today the term 9/11 will probably stay in history books forever; as well as the date that JFK was assassinated on November 22, 1963.

For now, it’s believed Lee Harvey Oswald killed JFK. I believe someday, he will be proven innocent and nothing but a patsy.

Movies show JFK’s head knocked forward (brain matter on the car windshield), and in the same instant his head is knocked backward (brain matter on a motorcycle’s windshield that’s following the car.)

Amazon.com: I Shot JFK: The Shocking Truth : James E. Files, Robert Kiviat: Movies & TV

Files would be more correct if he said, I shot a dead JFK, because a bullet from the ‘sniper’s window’ had already knocked JFK’s brains out on the car’s windshield.

James Files was a ‘hit-man’ for the mob. He was located behind the picket fence. Instead of lead, his bullet contained mercury. A mercury bullet is more powerful as mercury is ‘heavier’ than lead.

Unlike most material, gold and mercury never fades away, but last forever.

I believe if an autopsy was done on JFK, mercury would be found in his skull.

Long story about Malcolm E. Wallace. LBJ got him working for the U.S. Department of Agriculture in Texas. He’d been a Marine, and had a Doctorate Degree. His fingerprints were found in the ‘Sniper’s Window’.

Wallace’s wanting more money and bragging he’d killed many people for LBJ got him killed.

RB Kuter said...

So thankful that there is the extensive memorial events taking place on this 20th anniversary of that beautiful September 9, 2001 day that became so dark and desperate as thousands perished needlessly due to the vicious terrorist attacks.

It makes me thankful as we reflect on the hundreds of heroes who died that day and who have died on the battle field since to protect us from a repeat of similar attacks.

God help us and bless those surviving families of those who have died as a result of Satan's wickedness.

Lissa Roberson said...

There's much truth to what you're saying, Wade. Despite Joe Biden's earlier pledges of no vaccine mandate, no vaccine passport, and his repeated assurances of the vaccine's safety, he undid all of those in his speech two nights ago.

Federal employees, and businesses with over 100 employees are now mandated from the Oval Office to vaccinate their employees. Proof of vaccination will be required to enter some event venues, and aboard all airlines. And -- most ludicrous of all, he asserted that THE VACCINATED are those at risk from the non-vaccinated!! If that's the case, why on earth did the CDC promote the vaccine in the first place?

All this pro-vaccination rhetoric is coming from one who, prior to the election, claimed he did not trust the vaccine.

What changed? He now occupies the national seat of power, welcoming an aggressive leadership team with a pointed agenda. Capitalizing on a perfect scenario to stoke widespread fear, and demanding conformity to surrender personal liberties "or else". Adding an ingredient of false social concern over "the greater good".

We're peeking through the doorway of a one-party state and a future one-world government indeed.

Christiane said...

Thank you for remembering the heroes of 9/11, Mr. Kuter

I was hopeful that someone would speak for them here today. I know that we all are thinking about them and remembering.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-viMzr2nac

Christiane said...

I need to speak about the images of two black women.

One is the sad display of Cardi B on this post:
https://www.wadeburleson.org/2020/09/warning-explicit-post-on-wap-and.html

and the contrasting image of Lisa Jefferson, the supervisor who helped Todd Beamer on 9/11:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-viMzr2nac


It has seemed to me that in the past five years, we have struggled as a country to deal with 'the culture wars' in ways that have divided and attacked the dignity of human persons by addressing the obvious divisions;
but without examining something that Our Lord might have seen when He looked at people in His time here with us on earth:
that He saw beyond the 'surface' into the hearts of people, many of whom were rejected and despised, and He knew that they were 'more to Him than' their 'presenting behaviors and labels', and He engaged them on that different plane where their human dignity was not diminished in His eyes . . . only wounded and in need of healing.

I think Our Lord saw through the 'labels' and the cultural divisions of His day with enough precision to 'see' the core of our humanity that was made in the 'imago Dei' and therefore, worth saving

When I look at Lisa Jefferson and Cardi B, I see two black women. And I see how it is that one was able to serve an important roll in the history of our country on 9/11 and how the other leaves us wondering what painful things had happened to her in her life that she should feel a need to present herself as she does publicly as an 'object' instead of a human person.

Both women were black. Both Americans. Both impacted our nation each in their ways. And yet, history will remember the one who was humane and helpful to an American hero, Todd Beamer, and later very helpful to convey his message to his wife after the plane went down in Pennsylvania.

Do we see the humanity of both of these women? I think we must try. Because it helps us to understand more about how Our Lord saw through the 'surfaces' into the hearts and souls of the people of His days on Earth. We have to try to get beyond the surfaces that create our concept of 'the others', and see instead 'who is our neighbor'.

some thoughts on 9/11


Rex Ray said...

CHRISTIANE,

Bombs not airplanes cause three buildings to fall on 9/11. Objects and body parts were blown horizontal to other buildings caused by explosions.

Christiane said...

REX RAY,

Is Fox News promoting THIS information today? It seems with so much death that conspiracy theories have done more harm than we can possibly know, and you know I love a good mystery,

but when MANY varied sources recorded two airliners impacting the towers, we SAW and we HEARD as did many witnesses what happened on 9/11.

I don't know the source of your information, but if you care to share it, I will take a look at it. I'm reaching a point where 'mis-information' and 'dis-information' and foreign sources and ownership of 'theories' are beginning to seem to produce a greater division among our American people,
so I discount those influences as destructive rather than informative. I know that people will trust whom they trust, but I've got military in my family to pray for, and I'm not on board the attempts to divide our nation, no.

Please try to take conspiracy theories with a grain of salt. Especially when the videos and photos speak silent witness to what really happened. Those people who died deserve our respect and our honesty, especially today. The conspiracy theories that counter visual evidence are not helping us to remember the victims and heroes of that terrible day, no. My opinion only, but there it is. We must disagree on 'what happened'.

Anon.E.Moose said...

Too many people trust large institutions because they are large. The FDA is charged with being “responsible for protecting the public health by ensuring the safety, efficacy, and security of human and veterinary drugs, biological products….”; however, it is a huge government entity and as such moves slowly and is also a political animal. I think it very important to think about what does political mean? Per Merriam Webster, political is “of or relating to politics or government”. OK. So what is politics? Back to Merriam Webster, “the art or science of government, ……the total complex of relations between people living in society.” And finally, "Science” is the “knowledge about or study of natural world based on facts learned through experiments and observation” Science IS a truth gained through observation, but our observation can always be skewed by the lens that we are using to observe things. To rely upon the government, a HUGE entity with goals not always aligned with the individual, seems like a potential mix for disaster and we are seeing that disaster roll out.

Biden spoke of the need for a vaccine mandate this week -- a speech that nearly made my head explode. His speech capitalized on fear — an odd fear that has been continually generated, stoked and reinforced by the media. From Biden’s speech, “It will take a lot of hard work, and it’s going to take some time. Many of us are frustrated with the nearly 80 million Americans who are still not vaccinated, even though the vaccine is safe, effective and free. ….While the vaccines provide strong protection for the vaccinated, we read about and hear about and we see the stories of hospitalized people, people on their death beds among the unvaccinated over the past few weeks. This is a pandemic of the unvaccinated.” OK, Joe. This IS a pandemic of the unvaccinated, that is true, but people in a free country have a right to make stupid choices. It does not change the fact that they are fellow citizens who have made that decision of their own free will. The vaccine is currently available to all adults.

Per our President: “That 25 percent can cause a lot of damage, and they are. The unvaccinated overcrowd our hospitals or overrun the emergency rooms and intensive care units, leaving no room for someone with a heart attack or pancreatitis or cancer.” There is a huge truth to that, Joe, but a lot of the diseases that come to emergency rooms are from lifestyle choices. Yes, some MI’s are from family history but many MI’s are caused by poor lifestyle choices: obesity, diabetes, poorly controlled hypertension, the standard American diet. Pancreatitis is sometimes caused by gallbladder disease or genetics, but is often caused by alcoholism. We tried prohibition…..are we going to do a redo on that one century later? Life is imperfect. All of us make imperfect choices, so….what are we to do except learn to deal with the reality of imperfect choices.

The President continued, “I want to emphasize that the vaccines provide very strong protection from Covid-19. I know there’s a lot of confusion and misinformation, but the world’s leading scientists confirm that if you’re fully vaccinated, your risk of severe illness from Covid-19 is very low. In fact, based on available data from the summer, only one out of every 160,000 fully vaccinated Americans was hospitalized for Covid per day. “ Great, Joe. Love that information. Why are we still doing crazy things like masking, then? Living in a mask for the past many working days, I am convinced that the mask is making me sick.

Anon.E.Moose said...

continued.....
President Biden continued, “The path ahead, even with the Delta variant, is not nearly as bad as last winter. What makes it incredibly more frustrating is that we have the tools to combat Covid-19, and a distinct minority of Americans, supported by a distinct minority of elected officials, are keeping us from turning the corner. These pandemic politics, as I refer to, are making people sick, causing unvaccinated people to die.” Yes, Joe, but we live in a free society or we did. BTW, you keep implying that it is the Republican governors that are with-holding or supporting lack of vaccination — they all highly recommend vaccination. What they are doing is supporting the right of people to make a choice for their bodies. They are allowing people to make educated choices regarding what medical treatments people choose to accept. People die of poor choices ALL the time. The democratic cities with free needle exchange programs where people are literally dying in the streets because of their poor choices would be one example. Yet the governments in those cities seem to be supporting those poor choices…..the weird hypocrisy on this matter leaves me so confused (oh, and btw, people with OD’s take up hospital beds, not as many as COVID, but they do consume resources…..).

If you have been vaccinated, you can get COVID again. That is true, but vaccination protects against severe COVID unless you have significant co-morbidities. Go on with your life. If you are high risk (elderly, obese, diabetic, lung disease, etc), maybe continue trying to avoid social situations if you have that fear, but balance that fear with the reality that the rest of your life (because COVID is likely to become endemic, rather than gone) will be lived missing the rich experiences that life has to offer.

If you have had natural immunity (oh, Joe….where was the discussion of the benefits of natural immunity in your talk? Why do you and the CDC and the FDA refuse to acknowledge the power of natural immunity…..and NO. I am not advocating people go out and get infected but if you had the ‘rona, that counts), that should be as protective or more protective than the Vaxx. If you are elderly, are immunocompromised or had severe infection the first time around, consider getting a booster at some point, but otherwise, you are likely as good as or better than those who have been vaccinated.

Anon.E.Moose said...

I have friends that work in the hospital setting. They are exhausted. Although I have read articles suggesting that the 2nd wave is not affecting younger people in my community it is.....and my friends taking care of these people ARE frustrated as they look at the deaths as preventable. Their emotional exhaustion from the never ending onslaught of this disease needs to be acknowledged. However, we are in a data free zone-- we are learning about this pandemic as we go. The concerns about eventually having vaccine resistance are, in my book, unlikely but real and should be acknowledged. The fears of late term consequences of the vaccine are unlikely but real and should be acknowledged.

Christiane said...

Choices: when you are 'told' what to do and your gut feeling tells you otherwise, what can happen?

well, it is known that on 9/11, some who later died when the buildings collapsed, were told to return to their offices and THEY OBEYED.

I'm thinking that the gut feeling people 'get' when there is trouble is important to our survival in many ways. It involved a rush of adrenalin, and an impulse to get up and to flee the scene before something terrible happens, sure.

But what makes a person turn back instead? What makes people do that which they instinctively know is not the best course for them?

And what can we learn from the events of 9/11 that we can apply to our situations as we face dangers today? What are our instincts to survive telling us to do?
And what do 'others' want us to do instead? And how do we decide? And what are the consequences of our decisions? Better yet, who 'benefits' when we leave our own instincts to survive and go THEIR way? There is much to learn from the past.

RB Kuter said...

Anon, the greatest contradictory behavior exhibited by this regime is their passion for the need for all citizens to be vaccinated while opening our southern doors to hundreds of thousands, millions over this past year, who are totally un-monitored with ZERO effort to minimize their importing cases of COVID.

Then the COVID infested hordes are deployed throughout the nation with never a word mentioned by the powers to be in regard to addressing this sucking vacuum of importing COVID infected vessels. It is obviously a ploy to infect the population and maintain a surge in COVID cases while complaining about our hospitals being overcrowded.

Totally undermines ANY argument for having mandates for citizens.

Rex Ray said...

CHRISTIANE,

The engineers that designed the Twin Towers said four columns in the center of the buildings is what gave the Towers their strength. They said the Towers could not have fallen until those columns were destroyed.

The airplanes didn’t get close to the center of the buildings, but exploded on contact.

The destruction of the Towers was planned many years before the attack. When their elevators were worked on years ago, bombs were hidden around the four columns.

Christiane said...

REX RAY, do you have a link to your source of information about this?
BTW, how's your ankle doing?

Today is SUCH a sad day to turn on the television. All channels seem to be showing programs on 9/11. That day was twenty years ago and it was 'yesterday'. Heart-breaking memories.

Christiane said...

President Bush speaks on 9/11/21 at Shanksville PA (flight 93)ceremony:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xL6eaiM14o

Rex Ray said...

CHRISTIANE,

This is a link that tells bombs were in the Twin Towers.

Traces of explosives in 9/11 dust, scientists say - Deseret News

Christiane said...

REX RAY,

I did find this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Trade_Center_controlled_demolition_conspiracy_theories#Criticism

Anon.E.Moose said...

RB, when Remdesivir became the backbone treatment for COVID in the US based on an underpowered study that showed decreased hospitalization but no change in survival or viral load, while other therapies were nay-sayed, I began to doubt.

When I was vaccinated with a vaccine that, at that time, had reported efficacy of 95% yet I was told that I still had to wear a muzzle, I continued to doubt. After sitting in at work with a muzzle taking my glasses off every few minutes because they fog over, yet being told that this was somehow protective against a virus that floats through the air and survives....well....I decided to play the game to calm those that believe but I certainly don't believe in the power of the mask.

When we talked about lockdowns but left our borders open, I knew we were being played. As recurrent examples of the elite violating the rules that they give us because it is so important, I knew we were being played.

Now we have a President whose patience has "worn thin." The rational for Biden's program doesn't hold water. If this vaccine is so protective, why do we need to protect the vaccinated from the unvaccinated -- the vaccinated have been vaccinated so they are protected. The decision not to get vaccinated is a risk only to the unvaccinated (unless the unvaccinated has had infection and then they have natural immunity and are good for the road). If the vaccinated needs to worry because the vaccine doesn't work, then why does it matter and why are we forcing everyone to get vaccinated?

When I write "we are being played" this virus is real. The 2nd wave is affecting younger people and killing younger people in my community -- the vast majority of which are not vaccinated (although Israel saw 60% of the hospitalized as fully vaccinated, in my community, only 5% of the hospitalized are fully vaccinated in the 2nd wave).

Why does Biden's edict carve out Congress -- why should Congress and their staff be exempt while the common man with a business of 100 or more has to submit. (I guess for the same reason that Congress and their staff were carved out from having to submit to the rules/regs of Obamacare). WHY do we fail to make allowance for natural immunity in all of this? From my perspective, if you fail to acknowledge the power of natural immunity, you are no longer following the science.

I do not believe that vaccine mandates are appropriate. "According to the CDC" (I know, take it with a grain of salt, but....), only 1 in 4.2 COVID infections is reported. From that, they estimate that 120 million people in the US have had COVID (and therefore have natural immunity). That is a huge portion of the population -- some of those people will have been vaccinated as well.

Rex Ray said...

CHRISTIANE,

Good link. I agree with Jones!

RB Kuter said...

Anon, I think that your rationale is exactly why there is so much division and polarity in our society. Too many contradictions and unsound rhetoric.

Christiane said...

thoughts about 'freedom' and 'choice' and 'grace':

If only we were all able to recognize the Presence of Christ in those who suffer and to know that it is our service to others that exists in that realm in which the mystery of God becomes for us a reality,
then we would make 'choices' that are free from 'self' and able to incorporate the love that we are called to give to others in this wounded world.

Suffering comes in many ways. Sometimes it comes in the 'transitions' from one stage of life to another when what has grounded us falls away and a newer reality takes its place for a time, and we are shaken by the 'change' where before we were comforted by what was familiar and 'safe'.
But we are never 'abandoned' and never 'alone' if we dwell in the Peace of Christ where we shelter from the evil one and where we are enabled to reach out to care for the welfare of others in our world using the gifts Our Lord has shared with us.

some thoughts on those times of transition where we are told 'go towards the Light'
in a world where 'without the Gospel, there is only the darkness'.

RB Kuter said...

For whatever reason, it was sad to see former Presidents of only one political party attending the 9/11 Memorial Services at Ground Zero in New York City yesterday. I'm guessing that divisiveness and polarization of sentiments was a key.

There was a day when, no matter what, such an event would have facilitated a civil gathering of those from all political persuasions. Not blaming Republicans for not being there. Perhaps the most civil thing to do was to not disrupt the services by showing up.

Doesn't matter the reason. Just a very sad exhibition of where we are as a nation.

Christiane said...

May God have mercy:
This speaks to what nurses are seeing these days:
From a nurse's point of view, comes this:
"HER JOB IS TO TRY TO SAVE THEM, NOT JUDGE"


"Some patients beg Jen for the vaccine, though it’s too late. Others continue to insist COVID-19 is a hoax — while they’re dying. HER JOB IS TO TRY TO SAVE THEM, NOT TO JUDGE.
But people are suffering so much more, she says, languishing two or three weeks in intensive care before they eventually go on a ventilator. Once that happens, 95 percent die.
If everyone could see what she sees, she says, the horror and hopelessness her nurses live with every day, the anguish the patients’ families endure, maybe they’d believe.

6:35 a.m.

After the woman in Room 84 is sedated and someone sends her son home, after a nurse rolls away the emergency cart, after Jen checks on an 80-year-old man from an assisted living facility, she sinks into a chair at the nurses’ station and opens a three-ring binder.
Most of the patients in the COVID-19 intensive care ward are unconscious, sent into medical comas so they can be intubated. Once they’re on a ventilator, 95 percent don’t survive. When they’re taken off the machine, they usually die within 10 minutes.
Most of the patients in the COVID-19 intensive care ward are unconscious, sent into medical comas so they can be intubated. Once they’re on a ventilator, 95 percent don’t survive. When they’re taken off the machine, they usually die within 10 minutes.

The night nurse manager peers over the pages with her, reports on each patient.

“This one with the belly bleed is unresponsive,” says the nurse. “Too fragile to move.” Jen nods. The nurse turns the page. “This girl in 93, doctors were trying to hold off for her, but ... "
Jen doesn’t look up. Now that the patients are staying longer, the nurses get to know them, and their families.
Jen knows the 36-year-old woman has two young children, that she’s been holding on for two weeks, that yesterday she had respiratory failure and turned blue. “She’s going to need to be intubated,” the nurse says. The beginning of the end."

https://www.tampabay.com/news/health/2021/09/02/twelve-hours-in-a-florida-covid-19-icu/?utm_source=pocket-newtab

Neil Cameron (One Salient Oversight) said...

RB Kuter,

GW Bush was present at the memorial service.

RB Kuter said...

Not sure, Neil, pretty sure he attended the service in Pennsylvania, not New York City, which I thought sad given the role he played in that city just after the attack; remember?

Of course, "Politics" "trumps" all.

Neil Cameron (One Salient Oversight) said...

RB Kuter

Yes you're right. My mistake.

But Trump could've been at the service in Pennsylvania as well. But didn't.

RB Kuter said...

Neil, one would think that ALL of the former Presidents would be welcome and anxious to participate in such a national event but I am thinking that things are so polarized that representatives of the different political parties cannot participate in joint affairs without things being disrupted and turning ugly. Guessing they determine that such a distraction for the intended purpose of paying homage to those that died would not be worth it.

I am only guessing that the absence of the two Republicans was in response to that sort of volatile situation. Perhaps they did not want to inflict such a distraction from the meaningful memorial service for survivors. Perhaps there was some sort of arrangement made between the two "poles". Don't know. But it is very sad.

Christiane said...

It would have been good to have Vice President Pence at one of the ceremonies if possible. I think any sign of American unity on such a day is welcomed. Pence is considered to be a loyal American and a gentleman by most Americans, I think.

Victorious said...

Christiane, Pence's presence may not have exibited unity since he recently slammed Biden for his covid vaccination mandates.

Former Vice President Mike Pence Friday made a rare TV appearance to rail against President Biden’s new push for COVID vaccine mandates as “unlike anything we’ve heard before.”

In his first television interview since leaving office, Pence suggested Biden’s tougher approach on requiring COVID vaccinations amounts to violating personal freedom.


more here:
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/us-elections-government/ny-biden-covid-vaccine-mandate-pence-20210910-3vs6wjckqbd6dgqpvhfcnlwufe-story.html

Christiane said...

Yes, I see. Thanks for the link, Victorious

I suppose there is a political line now drawn, but there were lines drawn twenty years ago also, and yet on the 'day after' 9/11, the nation came together.

It's like that time that Steve Scalise was shot and might have died if many had not come to his aid quickly:
the whole nation prayed for his recovery, and no one thought about 'politics' then, it was only that we hoped he would live and be well again.

Is it only in our crises now that we discover/recover who we REALLY are as a united country?
That seems both sad and yet strangely hopeful in a way.

As I was too young to hear and understand the old great-aunts talk of the Civil War family stories; so now I am too old to understand what happened on 1/6/21. What I do remember is how the whole nation said 'NO' to the deaths of the Ohio State students when they were shot by the national guard of our country during the Viet Nam War. . . we knew it had gone too far at that moment.

I'm not sure we know how to 'be' unified anymore, but I thought George Bush's speech helped to clarify some of my own thinking because I also don't come with answers for what is going on. Can't give up on my hope for better to come, though.
I can still see Mike Pence at least as a loyal American.

Neil Cameron (One Salient Oversight) said...

Alabama man dies after being turned away from 43 hospitals as covid packs ICUs, family says

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/09/12/alabama-ray-demonia-hospitals-icu/

Now, in DeMonia’s obituary, his family is urging those who remain unvaccinated to get immunized to help hospitals that have been pushed to their limits and struggling to treat emergencies not related to the pandemic. His daughter told The Post he was vaccinated against the coronavirus.

“In honor of Ray, please get vaccinated if you have not, in an effort to free up resources for non COVID related emergencies,” the family wrote. “He would not want any other family to go through what his did.”

Christiane said...

maybe folks just need some time and reassurance about the safety of the vaccine because:

while they still would rather 'die' than get the vaccination;

they are the kind of people who take their loved children to pediatricians to be inoculated against smallpox, polio, measles-mumps-rubella, etc, etc.

This tells me that people 'get it' that vaccinations are good prevention for serious diseases;
so I think that, in time, these good people might come to accept what is at least keeping those who receive it alive if there is a break-through covid infection.

Rex Ray said...

Victorious,

Thanks for the link!

A picture doesn’t show the usually greeting of shaking hands, but bumping their arms. (Both are wearing suits and mask.)

This is the important things I got from the link:

“To have the president of the U.S. say that he’s been patient, but his patience is wearing thin, that’s not how the American people expect to be spoken to by our elected leaders,” Pence told Fox News. Pence told Biden to stick to gentle persuasion on vaccines and put down the presidential big stick.”

“The former Veep still hopes to run for president in 2024.”

“The former president [Trump] says he may run himself for president in 2024 and hasn’t committed tapping Pence as his potential running mate.”

Rex Ray said...

Last night at the end of preaching on 1 Corinthians, we had an informal discussion where I said, “I believe if Paul had gotten married, he wouldn’t have written:

“…The head of every man is Christ, the head of woman is man…” (1 Corinthians 11:3 NLT)

I added: ‘Our mother said in our family our father was the head, but the neck turns the head.”

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Scott Shaver said...

Can’t really blame him can you?

The whole country was lackluster in lieu of what leaders are blowing now.

Christiane said...

evensong for'that moment when we realize that the music is not too slow,
but we have been moving too fast:'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UZes-YUcjw


"From the ashes a flame will be woken. The broken again shall be whole."

Rex Ray said...

CHRISTIANE,

You’ve asked about my ankle. Medicine is applied every day, and then covered up to my knee with a compression sock which takes a lot of pulling. Home Health does it twice a week, and Judy does it the rest.

Wade,

I have your Post starting 11-21-19 on 11 pages stapled together with the number of comments. It takes 5 minutes to see if any new comment has been made.

To find the sheets in the mess around my computer, I keep a clothespin on them. :)

On Post August 2, 2021, that bad comment is still at the end.

Christiane said...

Hello out there, REX RAY

it sounds like what they tried to do to help my father when he messed up his leg (a fall against a nightstand while trying to make his bed, in assisted living no less);

his doctor tried for a long time very patiently to help with the healing and we went to many of the appointments hopefully and,
in time,
the wound healed. . . .

I was to have my dear father for some years after that before his passing.

I think 'patience' and committed care is something that works with 'time' as the Good Lord knits us back together for a while;
but I know it's a long and hard process.

The good doctor was a friend of my brother's in medical school. He was from China, and came to study in this country and stayed, and I know he cared because, when the time came, he showed up at my father's 'wake' (visitation before the funeral) and we got a chance to thank him for all he had done.

I don't understand why today doctors are so maligned. (?) It seems to me that there is some 'need' for good people to blame, but they have 'got hold of the wrong horror' so to speak;
and as it is doctors who often bring the sad news to us, I wonder if many are not 'attacking the messengers', rather than facing a reality too painful to acknowledge in our present wounded state?

May God have mercy on us. For we are His children, and He is Our Father, Our Creator. We need His peace, as we need air and food and water, in order to go forward in a good direction. May Christ have mercy.

You take care, REX RAY, you have my prayers.

Neil Cameron (One Salient Oversight) said...

Over at Reddit there is a section called "Herman Cain Award", in which a person's Facebook or Twitter history of anti-vax statements is recounted, followed by postings from the person about how they now have covid and how difficult it is to cope with it, followed by an obituary of the person once they died.

It's schadenfreude for many, but ultimately a tragedy. Their arrogant, boastful statements about how the Vaccine is a lie, that Covid isn't that bad, with regular memes and posts about their beliefs, followed by their health going downhill, their fear and terror at their condition, and then the sad report from a friend or a family member who announces their death from Covid.

If you can stomach these, then go here to see them:

https://old.reddit.com/r/HermanCainAward/

Scott Shaver said...

So somebody collates Twitter statements to dance over the dead with “I told you so”. Sounds very Christian indeed.

Scott Shaver said...

The U.S., as we know it, died in Afghanistan.

Anon.E.Moose said...

Follow the science......

Establishment medicine has gone full woke with The Lancet having as its cover for September 25, 2021 (Volume 398, Issue 10306, pages 1105-1194): “Historically, the anatomy and physiology of bodies with vaginas have been neglected.”

Can’t get more woke than that, but it degrades women to being just a orifice. Oh, yes….this reference to an article in the journal bends over backwards to be inclusive of women that have taken hormones so that they can pretend to be boys (a group now called "men" but that may still have female parts).

We trust THESE people, these medical elite, to tell us how to manage a pandemic? Checking out the article that the title page references…..the article on page 1124, it is about women's monthly cycle and the potential closure of the Vagina Museum. We are in the middle of a pandemic, and that is what they think is important?

Me, in MY wisdom (cough), thought this might be jealousy, with women having a museum to their body orifice and the men not having a museum dedicated to their appendage. Unfortunately, the world of Google introduced me to *that* museum. Sigh. Please. Make. It. Stop. BTW, if one searches on "detransition" using The Lancet search engine, one little article comes up. I could not find an article about the potential negative health consequences of taking hormones to change sex. Maybe I searched the wrong terms. I would be happy to be proven wrong.

To think that science is true or that medicine is guided by the science and not the politic is to put unearned faith in human systems that have been taken over by the politic.

I am sorry if this is not considered appropriate, but as I watch how the science is being manipulated to meet man's ends to the destruction of much that is good... In God We Trust, until the government tells us that is not woke enough.

PaulOliveros said...

I'm not sure what's happend with you, Wade, over the past couple of years, but it has shocked and saddened me. I'm not sure what else to say.

Rex Ray said...

Paul Oliveros,

I’m not sure what’s happened with you, Paul, over the past couple of years, but it has shocked and saddened me. I’m not sure what else to say.

What goes around, comes around.