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Monday, July 26, 2021

Cellular Blood Clotting and MRNA Vaccinations

I am not anti-vaccination. I am pro-investigation. I am not a conspiracy theorist. I am a competent intellectualist. I believe in informed consent and liberty, not induced compulsion and tyranny. 

With those caveats, I invite you to watch a nine-minute video from world-renowned physicians, immunologists, scientific researchers, and medical ethicists. 

It is nine minutes long. It is not for the weak of heart, literally and figuratively. For those (like me) who don't like watching videos, a friend of mine transcribed all nine minutes (below). The key phrase is the following:
"The concern with that is that those people will probably all develop right-sided heart failure within three years and die because they now have increased vascular resistance through their lungs."

 The video is worth a listen. Science means knowledge. Science is never settled. Don't let your knowledge suffer by turning a deaf ear to conversations among scientists. What you do with your life and your body is your business. It is my business to make sure dissenting viewpoints are never forcibly silenced. Watch or read at your convenience. I've done my duty. 


Dr. Sam Dubé: You spoke to a potential mechanism of action of the injury and you mentioned to me the use of the D-dimer test, which we all know what it’s for, but we’re going to have to explain a little bit. Could you please speak to this a little bit and give the relevant context and  introduction because I think this is really groundbreaking and important?

Dr. Charles Hoffe: Yes. Thank you. So one of the key things that really bothered me when I started to see serious vaccine injuries in my own patients is that I had no idea what the mechanism of injury was, and therefore as their doctor, I had no idea how to treat it. As their family doctor I knew they would come to me for help and I needed to help them and I was clueless. This is an experiment and I was aware that there was literally more people … a medically induced disease being produced by this vaccine.

And so I had asked this in my open letter to Dr. Barney Henry, our provincial health officer, what is the mechanism of injury and how do I treat this as these people’s as their doctor. And of course nobody knew. The vaccine manufacturers had told us that the COVID spike protein does not go intravenously, it stays in the arm. The antibodies to the spike protein are produced in the arm and that’s what we have not found. Scientists now and Dr. Brody has actually very clearly revealed this, only 25% of the vaccine actually stays in the arm. The rest of these vaccines…these vaccines are a vast number of little messenger RNA strands.

The Moderna vaccine has 14 trillion messenger RNA molecules per vaccine dose. 14 trillion! So, these are wrapped in a little lipid capsule, the lipid capsule to enable them to be absorbed into the cells. So this is injected into the person’s arm, in their deltoid muscle of the shoulder, from there as I mentioned earlier 25% actually stays there, the rest is taken up collected through the lymphatic system and hence into the general circulation. And so it circulates around the entire body. And I think every doctor knows that absorption from the circulation occurs in capillary networks because that’s where the blood slows right down. It goes into tiny, tiny vessels so these little nano capsules containing these trillions of messenger RNA molecules are absorbed into the lining around the capillaries what medically we call the vascular endothelium. So these little packages are absorbed into the cells around the vessel, the package is opened, the body recognizes these messenger RNA strands as a gene and gets to work making COVID spike proteins.

So in a virus those COVID spike proteins form part of the viral capsule but the problem is they are not in the virus, they are in the cells around blood vessels, so as a result they become part of the cell wall of that cell. So normally the cells that surround your blood vessels have to be very, very smooth to enable good and unimpeded flow of blood, but as soon as you got all of these little spike proteins that become part of the cell wall, it is now a rough surface, it’s going to be like a very coarse sandpaper. It’s now what the platelets are going to interpret as a damaged vessel, it’s no longer smooth. It’s rough. So clotting is inevitable because the platelets that come down that vessel are going to hit a rough spot and assume this must be a damaged vessel. This vessel needs to be blocked to stop the bleeding. That’s how our clotting works.

 So, clots are according…because of this and because of the nature of this, clots are inevitable. Because of these spike proteins in the capillary networks. So I set out to then try and prove this. Could this theory be correct? And so the problem is these little clots in the capillary networks are microscopic and they are scattered. So they are not going to show on any scan, they are just too small and too scattered. It’s not like the big clots that cause strokes or heart attacks. They are too small and too scattered.

So how on earth can we know if the person clots? And the only way is through the blood test called the D-dimer. The D-dimer is the blood test that will show up a recent clot. It won’t show up an old clot. It shows up a new clot. And it doesn’t tell you where the clot is. It just tells you that the clotting mechanism has been activated.

So I have now been recruiting patients from my practice, people that have come have come into my office and others that have heard me speak about this, and have asked people to do this D-dimer within one week of their COVID shot. And so far and this study is ongoing these are preliminary results, so far I’ve got 62% positive elevated D-dimer, which means that the blood clots are not rare. That’s what the so-called experts keep telling us that clots are rare. The big ones are rare, but the small ones are clearly happening in the majority of people, 62%.

Now I will tell you what the real concern with this is, is that a clotted vessel is permanently damaged. That vessel never ever goes back to normal. So if this theory is correct, which it really looks like by these D-dimer results, and I am told it is being done in Australia and it’s being done in the UK and they also found elevated D-dimers. And they sort of discarded the information because they said there’s no clinical evidence of clots. The reason is because they are microscopic and they are scattered, and so you are not going to see clinical evidence. But in fact all of the frequent side effects of the shock which are headache, nausea, dizziness, fatigue, could all be signs of cerebral thrombosis on a capillary level. In those literally you could be having thousands and thousands of tiny, tiny little clots in your brain that won’t show on a scan but they will give you those exact symptoms.

So the concern is that I have now got six people in my medical practice that cannot exert themselves the way they used to be. what medically we call reduced effort tolerance. Six people who now get out of breath doing things that they could previously do without any problem. So I believe that these people who locked up thousands and thousands of capillaries in their lungs in these six people, so I believe that these people now have permanently damaged lungs because they have got…and that’s why they get out of breath. I have one fellow that used to walk two miles to my office every week for a shot for his arthritis and he says after a quarter of a mile he’s done. In other words his effort tolerance is reduced to 1/8th of what it used to be.

I’ve sent some of these people for chest x-rays and CT scans to see what it shows. And all it shows is distorted architecture, what the radios reported, is described as increased ventriculation, it’s a very non-specific thing and it’s because it’s microscopic. But the concern is, because these vessels are now permanently damaged in the person’s lungs, when the heart tries to pump blood through all those damaged vessels there is increased resistance trying to pump the blood through those lungs. So those people are going to develop something called pulmonary oxic hypertension, high blood pressure in their lungs.

And the concern with that is that those people will probably all develop right sided heart failure within three years and die because they now have increased vascular resistance through their lungs, and lung tissue and heart tissue and brain and spinal tissue and all of that does not regenerate. In other tissues, it can regenerate, liver and kidneys and muscle and … but there are some tissues that cannot. So this absolutely explains what I have seen in my patients and that’s what I’m doing to prove it in my studies ongoing.

47 comments:

RB Kuter said...

Worth making note of. It's one of those things that I file away to see if additional news arises validating the claims. I don't reject it while not buying into it entirely either.

However, from the many reports we have had access to since these vaccines have begun use there seems to be enough concern about their non-conventional engineering and their difficulty in getting approvals to cause concern. It all results in my not having the confidence to allow anyone to inject it into my system.

Have a friend who actually allowed some non-credentialed "medical" person in Thailand to inject hydrogen peroxide into his blood stream as a means for "controlling cholesterol! I asked him (an American, my age), "Are you crazy?!"

He's still living.

RB Kuter said...

Speaking of "buying into it", any updates on your experiences with crypt o-currencies, Wade? Still a passionate advocate for that?

Christiane said...

it would be good to have links to the clinical studies that were done to gather the information these doctors are presenting to the public

I do know that Moderna is increasing its sample size (number of subjects tested) to determine the safety and effectiveness of the new Moderna vaccine being developed for children, which sounds like good practice as the larger the sample size in a study, the better

Wade Burleson said...

RB Kuter,

I don't know that I would say "passionate advocate" - but I am heavily invested in cryptos. I believe it is the future, and I am on the ride.

Jonathan Sarfati, Ph.D. said...

Like every other possible negative effect from an RNA vax, the effects are far greater from the RNA virus.

The Nobel Prize for Chemistry was awarded for discovery that DNA is very unstable, therefore living creatures must have repair machinery to survive. RNA is 100× less stable than DNA. So it will not last very long if it is not taken up by a cell and translated into a protein.

While spike proteins can be quite damaging by themselves, the ones induced by the vaccine stay attached to the cell thanks to the transmembrane anchor. They are not floating around in the bloodstream. Furthermore, the vaccine code for the spike has been mutated slightly so that it stays in its pre-infection state, i.e. it can’t change shape to bind with another cell’s ACE2 receptor. This should make it even less likely to cause damage (this applies to the Moderna, Pfizer RNA vaccines, as well as to the J&J and Novavax vaccines, but not to the AZ).

Also, the cells concerned are mainly stuck in the thick deltoid muscle of the shoulder, away from the larger blood vessels. Some of the cells will reach the lymphatic system, but this is a good thing! This is a major part of developing an immune response. In reality, you should be far more concerned about spike proteins on the fast-multiplying viruses which usually infect the lungs first. Each cell that the virus infects is forced to make 1000 new viruses, all with RNA and all covered in spike proteins, and the cell is killed in the process. Second cycle: a million new viruses. At peak infection, likely as many as 100 billion viruses, produced via destruction of 100 million cells.

From there, the spike proteins can damage lung tissue and blood vessels. The best way to stop this is to train the adaptive immune system to destroy anything bearing a spike protein—i.e. get one of the vaccines! The empirical evidence also is that you are in far more danger of serious blood clots or myo- or peri-carditis from the virus than the vax.

Some helpful articles: Anatomy of the Pfizer/BioNTech COVID19 mRNA Vaccine and Spike Protein Behavior

Wade Burleson said...

Dr. Sarfati,

As always, I appreciate your comments. I re-listened to the doctor on the video, and I don't think he was saying the mRNA (40 trillion) is floating around in the bloodstream. I thought I heard him say that the mRNA leaves the location of the injection point, spread through the body, and then becomes embedded within the outer membrane of the red corpuscles cells. The D-Dimer test is the only mechanism to test whether or not the body has kicked into a "clotting" phase because the clotting or "rough edges" (spike protein embedded in the cells) are microscopic. That said, he also pointed out that there are 38% of the vaccinated who are NOT affected with an elevated D-Dimer test or "rough edges" of the blood cells." I would be interested if you have taken the D-Dimer test yourself?

Again, I always appreciate your superb comments.

Christiane said...

Wade, those Canadian spokesmen you have presented as authorities are not considered to be credible among the general population in Canada, so I am told by my family.

Christiane said...

Please, if you all have opportunity, FOX NEWS is presenting the four Capitol police officers' opening speeches this morning. I did not know if FOX would show any of this, but they did, to their credit. Of course, later, many commentators will challenge the testimony, no doubt, but films are also being shown of what happened.

In my own mind, I have no doubt that Trump engineered from before the election to convince his 'followers' that the 'only' way he could lose would be by fraud. He accomplished this persuasion to the extent that his 'followers' attacked the Capitol on Jan. 6th. I do hope the evidence is kept non-partisan by the committee which includes also the very credible Liz Cheney.

Many grow weary of the conspiracy theories and the misinformation in support of Trump. It has led to violence and death. I hope putting light on the events of Jan. 6th will bring some of the extremists back into the real world where American citizens honor the rule of law and the US Constitution. I pray to that end. It is KNOWN that Russian security forces engineer much of what is put on social media in the USA and in Canada that 'divides' and causes misinformation, so be wary of your 'sources' especially if they are foreign and urge the avoidance of reality and the ignoring of credible evidence as seen by RESPONSIBLE entities.

Scott Shaver said...

As I watch these so-called "capital police" testify, it makes me wonder about what a low bar there must be for hiring these guys. Biggest cry babies I've ever seen. Pathetic.

Scott Shaver said...

Christianne: Perhaps its the "credibility" of your family members we should question😎

Rex Ray said...

CHRISTIANE,

“In my own mind…”

That explains everything. :)

Christiane said...

LOL - hope you are watching the investigation of the Insurrection on Fox News, REX RAY

Jonathan Sarfati, Ph.D. said...

Once again, every ill effect blamed on the vaccine is always much worse from the virus. For example, D-dimer level is associated with the severity of COVID-19, Thrombosis Research, Nov 2020:

“Patients with severe COVID-19 have a higher level of D-dimer than those with non-severe disease, and D-dimer greater than 0.5 μg/ml is associated with severe infection in patients with COVID-19.”

Clotting is a real problem with the virus, e.g. SARS-CoV-2 cell entry receptor ACE2 mediated endothelial dysfunction leads to vascular thrombosis in COVID-19 patients,

After I posted, I found this helpful comprehensive article by an author who opposes mandatory vaccination, Get vaccinated! It could help you, like, not die…. Among many other things, it posts a screen shot from a paper about the injection into mice. The vast majority of the injected RNA stays near the injection site, and the vast majority of the rest goes to the nearest lymph node, where the immune system processes them so they can't go further.

Some further numbers: the smallest capillaries are 5 microns in diameter. The spike proteins are about 20 nm long (judging from this electron micrograph and the 10-nm scale bar), and despite the name ‘spike’ are very blunt. So even if they were lining every cell of the vascular endothelium, they would be less than 1% of the diameter. The cells have receptors of similar size already, such as the ACE2 that the spike latches on to (see this diagram). But once more, there is far more likelihood that there will be injury to the vascular epithelium from viral spike proteins (SARS-CoV-2 Spike Protein Impairs Endothelial Function via Downregulation of ACE 2, Circulation Research, March 2021.

Jonathan Sarfati, Ph.D. said...

PS: I found some electron micrographs of a capillary cross section and vascular endothelial cells (of an umbilical artery). They are not really that smooth. On the scale of those pics, you wouldn't be able to see any (flat-topped) spike proteins.

RB Kuter said...

My son, who is fully employed in a good, full-time job, is now getting $500 tax free from our "Santa Claus" Marxist government. I think they (the Marxist regime) justify giving away all of these trillions of tax-payer dollars saying it has something to do with COVID-"Relief".

What is "COVID-Relief"?? Not sure what that means.

My son works hard and is very conservative but still, getting $500 for nothing other than having two boys is kind of hard not to accept. I guess it's like getting a $750 per month raise given that he doesn't have to pay taxes on the $500. He uses it to pay down on his auto loan. Does that help relieve COVID? Guess so.

I know a guy from church that has 3 kids. I think he said he's getting $750 per month and he makes a lot more than my son, but still under the ceiling that shuts off the government's presents.

I feel like apologizing to other tax payers. Thank you for giving our family your money. I'm sure that some of you need it a lot more than we do, and I am sorry for this, but since you're offering it, "Thank you". I hope you voted for this government. If so, perhaps you're giving your money away without begrudging us for taking it.

Bene said...

Christiane:

You and your family are correct. These doctors don't have credibility in Canada for more reasons than I can list here.

John Carpay, who hosted the video by way of The Justice Centre for Constitutional Freedoms is on indefinite leave as President of JCCF and faces disciplinary action by the Manitoba and Canadian Bar Associations up to disbarment for hiring a private investigator to follow the judge hearing their Covid/religious freedom case in Manitoba.

The JCCF is representing these four doctors who say they are being persecuted for practicing evidence based medicine.

Dr. Chris Milburn had complaints investigated about him by the Nova Scotia College of Physicians and Surgeons and the College chose not to pursue. He was removed as head of emergency medicine in Cape Breton and can practice, nurse his persecution complex and can practice free speech all he wants. He sees his credibility issues as everyone else's fault.

Dr. Sam Dube is retired from sports medicine and is also retired engineering mathematics professor who now does media and consulting and endorsing human potential stuff.

Dr. Francis Christian, a surgeon, lost his license to practice medicine earlier this year. He was fired from his professorship at U of Sask. last year.

Dr. Charles Hoffe is not permitted to practice emergency medicine, he is free to say whatever he wants, and maintains his family practice. He is personally anti-vax and calls the vaccines bioweapons etc. He may have stepped away from his clinic if social media rumours have merit.

Dr,Ridger Hodkinson is a pathologist who says he is a former chairman of The Royal College of Physicians Canada examination committee in pathology. No he wasn't. He says Covid is just a bad flu and the greatest hoax ever perpetuated. He says he is CEO of a North Carolina company called MutantDX that sells Covid tests. The company is listed, and the address is a condo. He gained early pandemic attention by being an anti masker, etc. He runs a company that does assessments for insurance companies and lawyers.

These docs are being represented by the JCCF and the framing of their defense is apparent.

The JCCF targets US audiences mostly with their videos and messaging because that is where the money is and Americans seem to love scare mongering about Canada going to **** in a handbasket and the government cover ups, suppressing free speech etc.

As for their science, haven't seen their claims in The Lancet, New England Journal of Medicine etc, or peer reviewed and verified by credible medical schools world wide.

Wade Burleson said...

Bene,

You may think you convinced many people that the people in the video are "frauds."

Actually, with your superbly researched comment, you convinced me the government of our friends to the north (Canada) is a police state.

In my experience, when an entity, organization (government) and those "in power" go to such great lengths to "shut people up," then there is a problem.

Let them alone. Even if they are wrong. Let them alone.

People are smart enough to figure out for themselves how to take care of their own bodies, and if they make a mistake and die, that's not on the government or anyone else.

People...die...all...the...time...of...disease.

Blessings.

Rex Ray said...

RB,

Santa Claus’s helpers are not making your son’s money; the money will come from his children.

It’ll take a long time to forget yesterday. Ankle got ‘worked’ on by a Wound Clinic. The pain pills I had didn’t help. Unable to sleep, Judy drove me to a hospital six miles from here. They had a GREAT pill and I’ll get more today.

BTW, I believe hospitals do unnecessary ‘things’ to make more money. They took three X-Rays of my ankle despite me telling them X-Rays the week before revealed no broken bones.

Wade Burleson said...

Rex,

Praying for you. I've seen that ankle! It might require prayer and fasting! :)

Seriously, specifically praying for relief from the pain and the ability to get a good night's sleep tonight.

Christiane said...

REX RAY, perhaps the radiologists at the hospital were looking for hair-line fractures which might account for the additional X-rays. (?)
I would give them the benefit of the doubt especially if they are trying to follow-up and treat your ankle and help you with the pain which is keeping you from sleeping.

Glad to hear Judy is driving you to get help. Let the doctors sort this out, be patient. Better they try than not. If you are in the kind of pain that is keeping you awake, they need to find out what is causing that pain and help you if they can.


WADE and BENE,
My father's homeland of Canada IS a staunch ally of our nation and their sons and daughters in their military have also served beside our own troops in foreign fields and paid the 'price' in blood for our freedoms. I don't think we can say that that is in any way an indicator that Canada is less than an honorable country. In my own mind, the Canadian people are 'sensible' and grounded. If the Canadian government is confronting overly-aggressive misinformation that threatens its citizens' lives, I can see that as a kind of responsible defense against misinformation, yes. I wish all folks WERE able to sort out how to take care of their own bodies, but I know that is not the case, as many are too young, some mentally-challenged, and some disabled in ways that require complex care over time. I see this in my own family, in the case of my son with Down Syndrome and many 'co-morbidities'.

For those who CAN sort out and choose their own path, yes, they have the right to direct their own journey;
but for those who depend on others for life-giving care, better that all who act on their behalf are ethical and protective of their interests as responsible care-givers who are also law-abiding and hopefully of good will. Politics is not a factor in this kind of care . . . you cannot 'evaluate' the good will of those who try to help the helpless in terms of today's political environment, no. These care-givers of good will also belong to 'another country' (the Kingdom of heaven) where they honor that the value of even a single human life is sacred.

Freedom? Responsibility? ???? maybe we should focus also on what it means for 'the least of these' who live on the margins and have no one and nothing but the good will of those that Our Lord inspires to care for their well-being?

I know it's a difficult and complicated issue, but we cannot 'look away' and 'let people die' who are helpless,
or we lose something of our own humanity as it was meant to be . . . as shown to us in the way that Our Lord was with people when He was among us as both truly human and truly God.

Scott Shaver said...

Adam Shiff and Nancy Pelosi's Capital Police Kabuki Theatre..is that the "investigation" to which you refer?

Scott Shaver said...

Nothing you mention Christianne serves to disprove a "police state" in Canada. Sorry.

Unknown said...

Anyone can make a Youtube video.

Scientific consensus disagrees with them. Lets see them cite actual studies and data supporting their claims. A few unchecked anecdotes isn't convincing.

Your main speaker (Hoffe) is known for spreading misinformation regarding COVID-19.
https://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/b-c-doctors-could-face-penalty-for-veering-from-covid-19-health-guidelines-college

Here are some more reliable sources:
https://www.who.int/news-room/feature-stories/detail/vaccine-efficacy-effectiveness-and-protection
https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/covid-19-vaccine-comparison
https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/is-the-covid19-vaccine-safe

Bene said...

Hi Wade:

I am not interested in convincing you of anything.

A Canadian perspective on the pandemic and the JCCF medical outliers is different than the US perspective.
JCCF Covid messaging falls flat in Canada.

What I am trying to say is that Canada is not the US.
Different doesn't mean wrong.
We are a commonwealth with parliamentary rule, not a republic.
Our culture is distinct, and there is far more a look out for your neighbour mentality than the individualism that places supreme value on singular opinion and personal freedom at another's detriment.

Calling Canada a police state just silly, dismissive and historically uninformed.

Canadian Public Health Agency Covid mandates are finite and subject to rigorous review.
Medical professionals are bound by their ethics, boards, and Public Health mandates in a public health emergency.

Canadian political messaging around Covid has been consistent from federal through provincial to municipal.
The Progressive Conservatives are on the same page as the Liberals, NDP, Greens etc.
Politically it doesn't matter who is in power, the pandemic has been tackled uniformly - no different than New Zealand, Australia, Scandinavia, the UK etc., which are not police states either.

The University of Oxford Blavatnick School of Government rates countries Covid responses by stringency. By October 2020 the US restriction index fell to 45 while Canada remained at 75.
A public health approach is not just one thing.
The ending in North America and the world hasn't been written yet and I believe Canadians understand this far better than Americans.

Federal and provincial Public Health chose to work together through shared concern and pandemic threat.

We don't have two political parties tearing each other apart, or supporters polarized and squared off against families, neighbours and friends.

Simply put, Covid-19 in Canada is seen as a world-wide communicable disease, not as a political fist fight.

Has Canada made mistakes with Covid response? Yes.

From the get go, provinces shared scarce resources and were collaborative. Co-operation and communication took centre stage. Canada learned with SARS, H1N1 in 2009, and the US vaccine rollout.

There are 91,375 physicians in Canada.
You focused on 4 outliers being represented by the JCCF.

The University of Oxford Blavatnick School of Government rates countries Covid responses by stringency. By October 2020 the US restriction index fell to 45 while Canada remained at 75. Different. Not 'police state. Not wrong.

If you believe co-operation, consensus, clear communication, less division and more discipline is indicative of a 'police state' - okay. Look at outcomes.

627,354 Americans are dead.
26,550 Canadians are dead.

49.2 percent of US citizens are fully vaccinated.
64.42 percent of Canadians are fully vaccinated.

Today
USA 5,156,410 active Covid cases
Canada 5,165 active Covid cases

I didn't say Dube, Christian, Hoffe or Hodkinson are 'frauds.'
They are/were licensed medical professionals.
I have little patience with their theories and grandstanding, they are not reprehensive of the Canadian medical community.

I stand by my support of Christiane's comment.

They express their opinions, through official and public channels.
They are free to address the consequences of their behavior.
They have not been 'shut up.'
If they were, we wouldn't be talking about them.

People aren't 'smart' enough if they aren't given (or have access to) credible information to make informed decisions. Smart is a poor word choice - nothing to do with intelligence or smarts.

Yes Wade, people die from disease all the time.
I absolutely agree with you.
It's why we as human beings created in the image and likeness of God chose to fight communicable diseases and mitigate preventable death.

RB Kuter said...

Wade and friends,

I asked my primary physician if he would treat us for COVID in the event we contracted it by using treatments such as "Ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine (HCQ), nebulized hydrogen peroxide, and or, Budesonide".

He responded that he does not use such treatments because they could do harm. He said that we need to get the vaccines, particularly due to the variant spread.

Does anyone have any suggestions as to what someone does if they do prefer to not get the vacs but do want the assurance for treatment in the early stages of COVID in the event we do contract it?

Christiane said...

Hello Mr. Kuter,

do you know what treatments President Trump received at the hospital that helped him to recover?

if you know what he was given and where to get those treatments, maybe that is what you are looking for?

?

The best thing is to have a good doctor and be advised, which you have done. What you do now, as Wade has said, is for you to determine. I don't think there are any easy answers. I hope you get some help. Are you having any symptoms at this time, God forbid?

Wade Burleson said...

"Does anyone have any suggestions as to what someone does if they do prefer to not get the vacs but do want the assurance for treatment in the early stages of COVID in the event we do contract it?"

From this point on, take Vitamin C, Vitamin D, and ZINC - every day. Eat right (low sugar), exercise, and pray. My Dr. wife says that Covid thrives in Vitamin D deficient bodies as well as the overweight (high sugar intake).

We have doctors all over this area prescribing Ivermectin.

Take a look at India. Why are we hearing nothing from India? Vaccines? Nope. That's what they WANT you to believe. India handed out Ivermectin-like candy - for FREE - to its citizens. Hospitalizations plummeted. That doctor that spoke of "side-effects" of Ivermectin, ask him to name ONE - ONE side-effect. Just one.

Jonathan Sarfati, Ph.D. said...

If I caught Rona, I would want to try ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine plus zinc and vitamins. But they are not nearly as good as the vaccine. One table in Nature showed as much as 79% improvement: All 55 ivermectin COVID-19 trials (As per data available on 16 May 2021) divided based on stage of treatment (Early Vs Late) and the type of study. Another study showed that IVM reduced mortality rate in hospitalized Rona patients from 25.2 to 15%. Still another showed that it reduced disease duration from about 13 days to 8 days. One of the most favorable studies showed that it still had a mortality rate of 1.4–3.9%, depending on the trial.

And these are the best cases. But why be content with lowering the mortality rate to 1.4% when the vax has a mortality rate of at most 0.007%? Why get the disease and get IVM so the disease can last only 8 days when you can have a vaccine that will stop the disease, and might have some side effects for a day or two, and no cough?

Bene said...

Scott Shaver

"Nothing you mention Christianne serves to disprove a "police state" in Canada. Sorry."

So Scott - you've visited the "police state" of Canada how many times?
Surely 4 outliers and the JCCF don't influence your opinion?

Wade:

India is still in the news.
Over 43 thousand were diagnosed today, 640 people died today adding to the death toll of of 4,210,000.
Over 44 million have been vaccinated.

The wave is easing, there is currently a surge in the southern state of Kerala.

Ivermectin was authorized as a prophylaxis with the caveat that it did not prevent the disease, but reduced severity of symptoms.(morbidity and mortality).
It was authorized for mild and home isolation cases based on a "low certainty of evidence."
It was one of a cocktail given and demanded in the wave.
India's health ministry (as of April 2021) does not recommend it as a prophylactic.
There are currently 12 clinical trials being carried out in the country.

USAID announced another 25 million to India today to work on vaccine supply chains, address vaccination misinformation and hesitancy and for providing health care worker training. That brings USAID total to 226 million in Covid aid to India.

Scott Shaver said...

My visits to Canada have nothing to do with the state of its police authorities. Surely you can toss up a fresher red herring than that.😜

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RB Kuter said...

Christiane, Wade and friends,

I apologize for wording my request for information about availability for alternative drugs in a way that might be understood as "my having COVID", which is not the case.

We were attempting to be prepared in the event that we do contract COVID and know if our doctor will prescribe such medicines if we request to take that route. We would be very willing to sign any disclaimers if he would saying that he is not responsible if we died or had negative side effects if he would prescribe it. (I recall Celeste saying that was one reasons doctors do not prescribe it, fear of being sued should things go south after taking that route instead of those conventional methods used by most.)

Maybe we need to move to Oklahoma to find a doctor who would prescribe the meds.

We DO and have been taking daily dosages of Zinc, Vitamin D, Vitamin C since COVID began.

Thank you all for your concern thinking we had it. Didn't mean to confuse.

Rex Ray said...

CHRISTIANE,

Wouldn’t the first doctors be looking for hair-line cracks?

Can you defend a hospital in this situation?

Years ago, they took a culture of my ankle, and said it’d take six days to get the results.

I said, “I’ll come back in six days. (It was a 30-minute drive to the hospital.”

“Oh, no; that’s not the way it works.”

After three days, a good doctor (the one I’m seeing now) got me released.

Their test was inconclusive.

Rex Ray said...

P.S.

I told the guy that took the test, shouldn’t he remove the medicine before he took the culture?

“I know what I’m doing!”

Bene said...

Scott:

Your knowledge and experience of Canada is not a red herring.
You have a p.o.v. which is that Canada is a police state based on what Wade posted.
As a Canadian I chose to address your opinion.

Dr. Chris Milburn was not arrested, or fined by Public Health.
He was fired from his job as director of Emergency Medicine at Cape Breton Regional Hospital.
The NS College of Physicians and Surgeons declined to pursue a complaint about him.
He is still practicing medicine and speaking up.

Dr. Sam Dube is speaking up all he wants.
He hasn't suffered any job loss, Public Health fines, or police contact for his opinions.

Dr. Francis Christian was fired from his faculty responsibilities from the U of Saskatchewan which has ethical and professional standards for staff.
He has not been in contact with police, fined by Public Health and is free to practice medicine.

Dr. Charles Hoffe was not arrested, or fined by by Public Health.
He was fired from his job in emerg at his local hospital.
He is still practicing medicine and speaking up. His clinic was destroyed in a forest fire less than a month ago. The hospital he was fired from also suffered serious damage.

Dr. Roger Hodkinson is speaking up all he wants.
We know he has falsified his credentials, but is free to run his company.
He has not been arrested or fined by Public Health.

John Carpay has taken an indefinite leave of absence and will face The Manitoba Law Society and Alberta Law Society for hiring a PI to surveil a judge hearing a JCCF case.
He may face criminal charges. He is under a police investigation and investigation by the province of Manitoba internal security and intelligence unit. John Carpay is a law enforcement and professional regulatory problem.

So Scott, do we get rid of professional regulatory bodies?
Do we scrub clinician ethical and professional standards?
Do we eliminate any complaint processes against professionals to their regulatory authority?
Do we forbid universities and hospitals from firing staff?

These men are not being persecuted, silenced, nor is this a Charter free speech issue.
The College of Physicians and Surgeons is not a star chamber.
University and hospital boards are not star chambers.
These men are not a law enforcement problem.

Scott Shaver said...

Fact: Bene is far more obsessed with Canada and its reputation among U.S. citizens than I will ever be.😂

Christiane said...

Good Morning, REX RAY

I don't know from your hospital, but I do know that the ankle, like the wrist is made up of many bones that have to align properly to function, not to mention the tendons, ligaments, and muscles that attach to help your ankle move.

Example:
The 14 ankle bones are the talus, calcaneus (heel bone), navicular, cuboid, internal cuneiform, middle cuneiform, and external cuneiform on each side.

So maybe your ankle situation is a little more complicated than you imagined?
Hopefully, the hospital provided you with a specialist who is familiar with the way the human ankle is constructed and operates???

I do know that hospitals will keep you even if you are a little bit 'dizzy' when you are ready to be discharged. So, they seem to 'err' on the side of your well-being either/or for reasons of medical ethics, for the prevention of further injuries in discharging you too soon, and to avoid law-suits for neglect, but even there, I'm guessing. (Except my brother told me that if I thought I was being discharged too soon by a hospital, I could tell them I felt 'faint' and they would keep me another day or so.)

Question: what stage are you in? Are they still trying to figure out what is wrong with the ankle? Or have they identified the problems and begun to work on them specifically?

If you are in severe pain (can't sleep), you need help and support. The hospital and the doctors know this, yes. The extra care given may not be a 'waste' if they end up helping you. Don't give up on them.

Rex Ray said...

CHRISTIANE,

Thanks for your concern. Have you heard of cellulitis?

Cellulitis - Symptoms and causes - Mayo Clinic

“Cellulitis usually affects the skin on the lower legs, but it can occur in the face, arms and other areas. It occurs when a crack or break in your skin allows bacteria to enter. Left untreated, the infection can spread to your lymph nodes and BLOODSTREAM and rapidly become life-threatening.”

There’s NO blood test that will identify cellulitis. This week I got a picture printed I had on my phone. It shows 9 pictures of my ankle, 2 pictures of my left hand, and 2 pictures of my fingers. (Pictures of my fingers, shows one twice as large as the other.)

I’ve been treated three times by hospitals for cellulitis in my ankle. Their longest treatment is 3 days. Mayo states for older people the treatment make take 2 weeks.

Bene said...

Thanks Scott, nice of you to pick up on that. I do care.

Scott Shaver said...

I've always been a fan of Dudley Do Right if that helps.

Christiane said...

Following the attack on 9/11, Canada stood with our country. American planes were allowed to land in Canada after the US air space was cleared of all plane activity, and the Canadian people showed great hospitality to our countrymen and women on that day.

Of Canada's military sons and daughters who fought beside our own troops in Afghanistan, 159 gave their lives. More than 2000 were injured or wounded during the war. This does not include the number of Canadian civilians who helped our cause who perished or were wounded. My niece who served as a US Navy nurse in Afghanistan was trained in weaponry with the help of Canadian soldiers.

I never 'understood' the trumpist hatred of our allies. Especially the comments aimed at Canada. But then again, I never understood the trumpist embrace of our Russian enemy Putin either. It makes you wonder what the far-right definition of 'freedom' really means.



Scott Shaver said...

That, Christianne, is because very few Trump supporters, actually "hate" our U.S. Allies. That's just more tired leftist rhetoric.

Canadians are obviously a little thin-skinned it appears from the sampling on this thread.

Christiane said...

a favorite in memory of my good father's homeland:

https://youtu.be/fx3iK_KGy54

Scott Shaver said...

That is a good tune. Used to have that one in a set list.

RB Kuter said...

Rex Ray, here's a number 1 cure for the "China Virus" Blues!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOIzRdDo_3I

(My wife first found it on "The Epoch Times".
If you bump in to any decent news, chances are it came from "The Epoch Times".)

Bene said...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5KufaaOPwI

Tamara said...

Disclaimer: I'm not "anti-vaxx" but I feel, so far, no compelling reason to get a covid vaccination, for a variety of reasons which have nothing to do with scary theories and more to do with personal experience/observations about covid that have fostered an "I can wait and see" attitude.

But...I have totally lost track of all the reasons I am supposed to fear the covid vaccination. Every week there's a new one that I'm encouraged to "pass on before it's censored".

Mark of the Beast, micro-chipping, vaccines change your DNA and turn you into a 5-G antenna, VAERS proves the vaccine has killed more people than Covid, vaccine contain poison/graphene oxide, vaccine contain poison/SM-102, vaccine contain poison/potassium chloride, vaccine causes miscarriages, vaccine causes sterility, and now the vaccine causes microscopic cellular clots and everyone will suffer right-chamber heart failure within 3 years.

Metaphorically and literally throwing up my hands in frustration. It's exhausting. If people have already decided the vaccine is bad-bad-bad, they will be able to find all sorts of things that seem to support their preconceptions.

Take away: the medical claims made here are concerning. They warrant paying attention to, especially since blood clots are both a known adverse reaction to the vaccine and a covid risk.
The history of the 4 doctors making these claims is concerning and undermines their credibility. They are not, in fact, "world-renowned physicians, immunologists, scientific researchers, and medical ethicists". However, outliers have been responsible for great discoveries in the past.
On the other hand, their lack of support from the majority of the medical establishment and the label "misinformation" by "the police state" doesn't automatically make what they say true or confer credibility.

So...

PS My PhD Son-in-law who does research at the cellular level had never heard the "covid vaccine changes DNA to make you 5-G antenna" and said "that's not even how it works. But that would be kinda cool. I wonder if it's possible."