Tuesday, December 04, 2018

The Scepter Shall Not Depart Judah Until Shiloh Comes, and to Him Shall Be Obedience (Gen 49:10)

Of the dozens of Messianic prophecies from the Old Testament, each of them beautifully fulfilled in the coming of Jesus Christ to bring "peace" (i.e. the meaning of the Hebrew word Shiloh) between sinners and our Creator, the prophecy from Genesis 49:10 is my favorite.
"The scepter shall not depart from Judah, nor the ruler’s staff from between his feet, 
until Shiloh comes, and to Him shall be the obedience of the peoples."
If you half an hour to spare and a willing mind, watch this video to help cement your understanding of why the Bible is unique among all other books and Jesus is sent from God as the Savior and Messiah of the world.

Wade Burleson: Until Shiloh Comes from Emmanuel Enid on Vimeo.


Unknown said...


I listened to this message a couple days ago, and I it is definitely one of your best messages. I learned so much! I can't recommend it highly enough.

Rex Ray said...

Wanda Martin,

I certainly agree with you. Judy and I listened to Wade’s brief sermon. Never have I learned as much in such a short time.

Wade pointed out that “Shiloh” was the name for Jesus in Genesis 49:10.

Of the translations that I read, they all say, “The scepter will not depart from Judah until Shiloh comes…” but they don’t say the same after that:

“…unto him shall the gathering of the people be.” (KJ)

“…and to Him shall be the obedience of the people.” (New Open Bible)

“…the obedience of the peoples belongs to Him.” (Holman)

“…the one whom all nations will honor.” (NLT)

“…whom all people shall obey.” (Living Bible)

I think none of them express the truth that all people SHOULD belong, honor, obey etc.

RB Kuter said...

What an amazing message from God and Christmas gift. God confounds me. This message portrays why.

Christiane said...

Wade, thank you for teaching about this prophecy during this season leading up to Christmas.
The old prophecies do come back to us, even by the voice of the Angel Gabriel who spoke with Mary at the Anunciation.

"Jacob . . . asked to be buried in Canaan with Abraham and Isaac. Joseph did as his Father asked.
Before dying, Jacob gave a blessing to each of his sons, and foretold about Judah (Genesis 49. 10):
"The scepter will not depart from Judah, nor the ruler's staff from between his feet, until Shiloh comes."
Shiloh meant the Messiah, the one who was to be sent. This prophecy was fulfilled most dramatically! For there always was some kind of ruler from the tribe of Judah until 41 B.C. when Rome put Herod over them. Herod was supposed to follow the Jewish religion, but was not from the tribe of Judah. By birth he was half Arab, half Idumean."
(William Most)

And in the Holy Gospel of St. Luke, Chapter 1,
at the Annunciation, the Archangel Gabriel speaks to Mary, this:

"And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favor with God.
31 And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS.
32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto Him the throne of His father David:
33 And He shall reign over THE HOUSE OF JACOB for ever; and of His kingdom there shall be no end."

I think that the 'advent season' helps increase our understanding of sacred Scripture when the old prophecies are read to us in the Old Testament;
and we hear them again in the New Testament, as Gabriel spoke to Mary.
And she, who knew the old prophetic Scriptures, would have pondered in her heart, with not a little recognition, the fulfillment of the prophecy mentioned in the Angel Gabriel's words.

Rex Ray said...


You quoted the Scripture, “And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS.” (Luke 1:31)

This had never happened before.

“Jesus said unto him [devil], It is written again, THOU SHALL NOT TEMPT THE LORD THOU GOD.” (Matthew 4:7 Luke 4:12 KJ)

And “Ye shall not temp the Lord your God, as you did in Massah.” (Deuteronomy 6:16 KJ)

One reason I mentioned these verses is to show that God CAN be tempted, otherwise there would not be Scripture saying not to do it. The main reason I brought this up is to silence those who say Jesus had to be part man in order to be tempted.

Most people believe that God change his Son into a sperm and Mary furnished the egg.

I believe God changed his Son into a fertilized egg. “The angle replied, “The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the baby to be born will be holy, and he will be called the Son of God.” (Luke 1:35 NLT)

Mary became a surrogate mother.

Christiane said...

Hello REX RAY,

your theory has been around since the second century A.D. and was first taught by Valentinian the Gnostic.

Your belief that Mary was a surrogate was first taught by a group called the 'Gnostics' but the early Church in Councils disagreed with them:

"Valentinianism taught that Holy Spirit deposited the Christ Child in her womb and that Mary was the a surrogate mother, but not truly Christ’s genetic mother. Valentinian the Gnostic (d. 160) taught that the Son of God passed through Mary like water through a straw. The Apostle Paul refutes this when he writes, “God sent His Son, made of a woman.”

Rex Ray said...



This link states:
“But when the fullness of time had come, God sent his Son, born of a woman, born under the law.”

Some translations state in Galatians 4:4 “…God sent forth his Son, made of a woman…”

But some translations state, “…God sent his Son born of a woman…”

These are: Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition, New Living, New International, Holman, New American Standard, New Open Bible, American Bible, Bible Gateway, and English Standard Version.

Rex Ray said...


I believe that Mary being chosen by the Lord to bear His Son was and is the highest honor bestowed on anyone other than Jesus. Her life was not easy but faced many dangers.


This link tells of the hard and cold travel of 90 miles to Bethlehem when she was 9 months pregnant.

(A 20 year old went down twice in her husband’s lap on my 40 foot high slide when she was 8 months pregnant. Had large coat on as it was winter.)

“…Angel appeared to Joseph…Flee to Egypt…stay there until I tell you to return, because Herod is going to search for the child to kill him.” (Matthew 2:13)

I’m sure it hurt Mary if she learned: “For even his brothers did not believe in him.” (John 7:5 NLT)

“When Jesus saw his mother standing there besides the disciple he loved, he said to her, “Dear woman, here is your son.” And he said to this disciple, “Here is your mother.” And from then on this disciple took her into his home.” (John 19:26-27 NLT)


This link tells why Jesus chose the disciple he loved (John) to take care of his mother, Mary, instead of her son James and others.

Christiane said...

Hello there, REX RAY

I have decided that a lot of the views about Mary are reflections of how people view Christ the Lord, Who He was in relationship to the Holy Trinity, and how people saw Him (in terms of His humanity, His divinity, His relationship to mankind within the Incarnation, etc.)

So once people have formed their view of 'Who Christ is'; then they seem to fit Mary to their view of Our Lord. Does that make any sense?

For example, people had a lot of confusion at the time of the early Church about 'Who Christ was' and some of the ideas bordered between two extremes: one, that He was only human, not Divine; another, that He was only Divine and not human; and others, some variation on a mix of human and divine . . . . many different 'ideas' formed and abounded until the Church said 'we need to meet in Council and pray and work this out to establish the Church's view of 'Who Christ is'. And that is what happened in the early Councils.

So, if people are not up on the early Councils of the Church, they may have a different view of Mary's role than those who accept the findings of those early Councils; especially if people are trying very hard to understand sacred Scripture without referring to tradition on subjects like the Incarnation, Who Christ is, and the Doctrine of the Holy Trinity. . . . in short, Mary's described role seems to parallel how people see other teachings and that has led to some very different opinions, sure.

But one thing we can take to the bank: Mary said to the people working the wedding party at Cana, this: "listen to Him, do what He tells you to do'

My own thinking follows the tradition coming from the early Councils.
Rex, thanks for sharing your view with those links.

Rex Ray said...


“…Who do people say that the Son of Man is?” (Matthew 16:13 NLT)

“Simon Peter answered, “You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God.” (Matthew 16:16 NLT)

“Jesus replied, “You are blessed, Simon son of John, because my Father in heaven has revealed THIS to you. You did not learn THIS from any human being. Now I say to you that you are Peter (which means rock), and upon THIS rock I will build my church, and all the powers of hell will not conquer it. (Matthew 16:17-18 NLT)

The Preface of the Living Bible states: “Bible writers often used patterns of thought that are hard for us to follow. Frequently the thought sequence jumps ahead or backs up to something said before as one would do in conversation.”

I believe Jesus build his church on THIS which was: “You are the Messiah, the Son of the Living God”. If the church was built on Peter, it didn’t last long because five verses later Jesus calls Peter Satan.

Another verse may be confusing: “I will give you the keys of the Kingdom of Heaven…” (Matthew 16:19 NLT) “Keys” are the Gospel, and whoever rejects it “will be forbidden in heaven” and those that accept it “will be permitted in heaven”.

RB Kuter said...

I just reviewed my comment above which said; "What an amazing message from God and Christmas gift. God confounds me. This message portrays why."

After I thought about the wording used, it came to mind that this might be misinterpreted as my assessing that Wade's sermon as not being clear, or confusing, or something like that. That was certainly not what I intended.

I meant to express that Wade's message so clearly and passionately portrays the Truth of how God's providence is unfolded throughout history that it causes me to be dumbfounded at how God has everything planned out to the jot and tittle. God announces all of these extraordinary things that He is going to do and in every instance, He does them by orchestrating everything that happens.

Anyway, good message and well done, Wade.

Christiane said...

Hello there REX RAY,

I've come to think that 'the Church', taken fully into consideration, IS 'the Body of Christ' in the sense that all who belong to it are a part of something far greater than the sum of its parts .... that those who are 'in' the Body of Christ are unified 'in Him, with Him, and through Him' in a way that we call 'mystical', that in Him we are also united in a special way with all of humanity because during the Incarnation, Our Lord 'assumed' our humanity to Himself so He could save us. Where there is Christ, there is the Church and He reconciles us to God through Himself and also to each other through our union in Him.

As for St. Peter, once called 'Simon', those verses are interpreted differently according to different faith traditions, but what I get from them is that God revealed something to Peter that he could not have figured out otherwise.

There are many different points of view about the meaning of 'the keys'.
But here, at the time of 'Advent' there is a beautiful 'antiphon' that speaks about Our Lord's title as 'The Key of David':

"O Key of David and Sceptre of the House of Israel;
You open and no one can shut;
You shut and no one can open:
Come and lead the prisoners from the prison house,
those who dwell in darkness and the shadow of death "

in Latin, this particular 'O Antiphon' is prayed, this:
"O Clavis David, et sceptrum domus Israel;
qui aperis, et nemo claudit;
claudis, et nemo aperit:
veni, et educ vinctum de domo carceris,
sedentem in tenebris, et umbra mortis."

Rex Ray said...


You’re correct in saying, “God revealed something to Peter that he could not have figured out otherwise.”

In fact Jesus said, “…my Father in heaven has revealed THIS to you. You did not learn THIS from any human being.” (Matthew 16:17 NLT)

That “something” is what Peter had just said: “You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God.” (Matthew 16:16 NLT)

Rex Ray said...


You mentioned the “early Councils”. I went to Google to find “early Councils because I’d never heard of them. Correct me if I’m wrong but they were Catholic Councils.

I believe the most important Council is recorded in Acts 15; the first Church Council. They were to decide how Gentiles were saved.

“Some of the believers who belonged to the sect of the Pharisees stood up and insisted, “The Gentile converts must be circumcised and required to follow the law of Moses.” (Acts 15:5 NLT)

Peter said, “God knows people’s hearts, and He confirmed that He accepts Gentiles by giving them the Holy Spirit just as he did to us…he cleansed their hearts through faith. So why are you CHALLENGING GOD by BURDENING the Gentile believers with a yoke that neither we nor our ancestors could bear? We believe we are ALL saved the same way, by the UNDERSERVED GRACE of the Lord Jesus.” (Acts 15:8-11 NLT)

Next verse: "Everyone listened quietly as Barnabas and Paul told about the miraculous signs and wonders God had done through them among the Gentiles.” (Acts 15:12 NLT)

BUT “When they had finished, James stood and said, “Brothers listen to me.” (Acts 15:13 NLT)

“And so my JUDGMENT is [who made him the judge?] that we should not make it difficult for the Gentiles that are turning to God.” (Acts 15:19 NLT)
“For it seemed good to the HOLY SPIRIT and to us to lay no greater BURDEN on you than these few requirements. You must abstain from eating food offered to idols, from consuming blood or meat of strangled animals, and from sexual immorality…” (Acts 15:28 NLT)

Christiane, how can James CLAIM the Holy Spirit wants a burden on the Gentiles when Peter said putting a burden on the Gentiles would be challenging God? I believe if James had not put in his two cents, Baptist roots would have prevailed but with his judgment, the start of Catholicism began.

Christiane said...

Hello out there, REX RAY

not to worry, the 'early Councils' that I speak of, do of course include the Jerusalem Council which declared its decision, a compromise, as is recorded in the Book of Acts,this:
" 29 You are to abstain from food sacrificed to idols, from blood, from the meat of strangled animals and from sexual immorality. You will do well to avoid these things." (Acts 15:29)

The 'early Councils' I mentioned included these:
Council at Nicaea in 325 A.D.
Council at Constantinople in 381 A.D.
Council at Ephesus in 431 A.D.
Council at Chalcedon in 451 A.D.

Rex, I'm not sure if the findings of these councils are shared by all Protestants, but some mainline Protestant Churches do hold with the Nicene Creed, and some even with parts of the Chalcedonian Creed; but I do realize that the Southern Baptist Church is supposed to be non-creedal (however, the BF&M seems to have played the role of a creed at times, and not necessarily in a constructive way, either)

My own acceptance of those early Creeds has to do with their clarification of 'Who Christ Is' and the Doctrine of the Holy Trinity primarily.
These clarifications were necessary as the early Church came under attack by the Arian heresy and several other heresies that departed from what the Church considered to be the foundational understanding of what the Apostles had taught and what had been handed down from those teachings.

even in our modern time, the old heresies will sometimes reappear, dressed in new clothing, and present themselves as 'biblical' and Wade has dealt with some of that in his blog articles, especially the corrupted teachings about patristics and the role of women which spawned the heretical "Eternal Subordination of the Son" teaching.

I would say most Christian people have a grasp on 'Who Christ Is' and some have a grasp on the traditional teaching of 'The Doctrine of the Holy Trinity';
but I have noticed that more than a few seem a bit shaky about these topics at some point, and no wonder, as these topics are dealing with great Christian mysteries revealed which are still being 'pondered' in our own time. I think that a lot of the diversity of opinion is really more of a matter of 'emphasis' rather than real disagreement. So I welcome that diversity of emphasis and I try to 'listen' and try to understand when I encounter it.

Rex Ray said...


I see we’re on the same page. You’re right that Southern Baptist don’t believe in creeds, but what we do believe is our Baptist Faith and Message. It can become a creed if one is “forced to sign it. At one time, the powers that be, required anyone they had control over (missionaries etc.) to sign their ‘paper god’ (BF&M 2000) or be fired. It broke what Jesus taught when it limited the position of pastor to “men only”. The worst was changing, “We believe in the priesthood of the BELIEVER” to “We believe in the priesthood of the BELIEVERS.” In other words, ‘everyone had to believe what the majority believed’.

Our church refuses the BF&M 2000, and believes the one written in 1963.

James’ conclusion in Acts 15 changed ‘how are Gentiles saved?’ to ‘what they must not do to be accepted by Christian Jews’. This created confusion. (The devil loves confusion.)

Gentiles were waiting for an answer to how they were saved. They didn’t get the correct answer from Peter:

“We believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they.” (Acts 15:11 KJ)
“We believe that we are all saved the same way, by the underserved grace of the Lord Jesus Christ.” (Acts 15:11 NLT)

I think these Gentiles thought ‘if obeying some of the Law was good, then all the Law would be better; it dumfounded Paul as he wrote: “…Did you receive the Holy Spirit by obeying the law of Moses? Of course not! (Galatians 3:1-2 NLT)