Sunday, July 01, 2007

From Trickle to Torrent: Welcome SBC Outpost!

The Mississippi River is often called the 'mighty' Mississippi because of the awesome size and power of the river near its entry into the Gulf of Mexico. Over forty percent of the continental United States drains into the river along its route to the Gulf. At New Orleans, the mighty Mississippi is over two hundred feet deep and carries into the Gulf of Mexico enough water to fill one hundred and sixty six semi-trailers of water per second. The movement of water at the Mississippi's mouth is so powerful that nearly a half million metric tons of sediment pours into the Gulf of Mexico every day via the river.

But the Mississippi has its start in a much more humble fashion.

Two thousand three hundred and twenty miles north of the Gulf of Mexico is a little picturesque lake called Itasca, where a small stream, less than three feet deep, overlows Lake Itasca. This little stream is the beginning of the Mighty Mississippi.

The Gulf of Mexico is due south of Lake Itasca, but the Mississippi, in contrary fashion, embarks on its trek by flowing due north. The first of many indications that this river itself and the history that surround it are, as Mark Twain said, "in all ways remarkable."

The word Itasca is a fabricated name made up by borrowing and splicing together halves of two latin words, "veritas caput" which translates as "true head." 19th Century survyer Henry Schoolcraft made up the name (with a little missionary help since only the missionaries in those days knew Latin) and it has stuck. Mr Schoolcraft was the first person of European descent to visit Lake Itasca or at least the first person of European descent who was expressly searching for the source of the Mississippi when he arrived there in July 1832.

SBC Outpost and Other SBC Blogs: A Trickle That Grows More Powerful

Today, July 2, 2007, marks the beginning of a new SBC Outpost. Several Southern Baptists will be making contributions on this new and revamped blog. SBC Outpost joins the stream of blogs that are leading to change in the Southern Baptist Convention. The flow of information grows greater with every post and new entrant into the SBC blog world. Contrary to the expecations of some, the presence of SBC bloggers will only be magnified in the coming months as the Southern Baptist Convention returns toward a more conservative, missional and peaceful place among evangelical Christianity - a place where we belong.

Frankly, for those of us who tire of reading what it is that we as Southern Baptists are supposed to be against, we read with anticipation those posts that highlight what we as Baptists are for - and are actually doing - in the area of church missions, church plants, and church ministry.

Welcome, again, SBC Outpost into the Southern Baptist blog world.

You join the flow downstream - not to the left, or the center, or the right - but to the powerful reason for our existence as a cooperating convention - the proclamation of the gospel of Jesus Christ to unreached peoples everywhere.

Blogs are making a difference.

In His Grace,

Wade Burleson


Kaylor said...

Mark Twain once remarked that the reports of his death had been “grossly exaggerated.” I believe many have made the same mistake when talking about Baptist bloggers. Some of that sentiment is likely just wishful thinking on their parts.

Anonymous said...

We don't wish for your death or anyone elses.
We do point out that your influence(and numbers) is way less than you think.
When you blog with the same mind set, talk on the phone with the same mind set, fellowship with the mind set, and go to conventions with the same mind set it's no wonder you come to this wrong conclusion(read Bernard Goldberg's book, "BIAS" and his comments on Dan Rather).
We will 'course correct' the SBC in Indy and Louisville and beyond.
We won't lose many younger leaders as fact, we'll continue to gain true conservative leaders...both young and old.
Perhaps your 'movement' has reached the proverbial street sign..."DEAD END".

Anonymous said...

From one annonymous to another ,

Just fact that you put a political twist on this and pointed toward future conventions is sad. Placing DEAD END as to "your movement" I think is also sad. Your movement?

I would respectfully disagree with you and I think you are guilty of your own assessment. Your prediction flows out of your own confined circle of friends IMHO. I realize that all of this simply opinion anyway.

We have already lost younger pastors. They do not announce they are are leaving. They simply move quietly forward out of the SBC to other conservative churches, or start churches that are not SBC. Of course to make ourselves feel better we cry they are liberal or do not belong, but that is simply not true. They are inerrantist, mission minded, and bible beliving young men who are fed up with old, dogmatic ideas that have no basis in scripture. What I have seen are men who hold to more of what the bible actually says or does not say, versus what an SBC leader or small group of independent baptist within the SBC say.

I have witnessed this personally with at least 4 young men in the last few years. They left the SBC to begin something new that reaches people. They are conservative young men and their churches are growing and reaching the lost, not simply transfering church members.

So while all I have is an opinion on this and little true facts ,I have seen people leave due to the narrowing of parameters first hand. I for one think that alone is reason enough to open my eyes and little and see if what some of the bloggers are saying may be true.

John Daly said...

I was working for the US Army Corps of Engineers in 1993 when the flood came. When the waters "exceeded their boundaries," they truly left much heartache and people ended up moving permanently after it ended. Conversely, when the river is in a drought stage it can not provide the basic necessities and it loses its vibrancy, and it simply withers. At its optimal stage however, the river is fully functioning and all the streams and tributaries combine so the river can be used as originally intended. That’s my take anyway…

Anonymous said...


when you setup the link for SPCOutpost, you fat-fingered the link! Join the club.

You entered: http//

Should be:

Have a fine day!

Gary in Norman said...

Thanks Gary!

These fat fingers of mine fixed it!


David Simpson said...

Are you going to be a contributor to SBCOutpost? You're not listed as one. What makes a guy (or gal) qualified or endorsed to be listed on the SBC Outpost as a contributor?

Anonymous said...


What does the "P" stand for? said...


I will not be contributing to SBC Outpost, but will read it regularly. If I ever choose to fold my blog I will become a contributor.

Anonymous said...

I was at Lake Itasca around May 15 a few years ago. It was the first day of fishing season and the sleet was falling in waves. It is an interesting area to visit. Don't miss Paul and Babe (the blue ox).

I was rummaging around sbcoutpoast, linked out to one of the Baptist news sources and noted that someone in California had started another state convention. Wonder if the SBC will receive money from them since they did not take money from the break-a-way convention in Missouri? I suspect that I know the answer to that question--but I might be wrong.

The motivation for the new convention seemed muddled to me--but I'm not from CA so I don't know their problems.

Bennett Willis

volfan007 said...

native makes a good point about the ms river when it extended it's boundaries in did much harm to many people. i live near the river...have lived near it my whole life. it's a wonder to behold. it's huge where i live. but, it can be a monster sometimes. that's why my grandfather helped build a levee... to keep it in it's proper boundaries.

may the sbc always keep in it's proper boundaries.


irreverend fox said...

great post Wade!

Anonymous said...

"may the sbc always keep in it's proper boundaries."

That analogy can be taken so many different ways. For those of us who are trying to get us to stick to the BFM instead of going beyond it, we agree with you, David. You can likely read that perspective on the Outpost. When there is a lot of water and the river valley is narrow artificially, there can be a huge flood. It is better to let the water cut the channel instead of people coming in and narrowing it just to suit the whims of others.

Good post, Wade.

volfan007 said...


if you let ole man river go the way it wants to go...many people get killed and many people lose thier farms and their homes. ole man river had to be leveed to keep it from the harm that it can do when left to it's own. before the levees, many people suffered.

if it werent for the levees, the floods would be horrendous in the damage they would cause. and, if we dont keep the sbc in certain parameters, in certain doctrinal and theological levees, then the damage will be horrendous in people's souls.

i guess we have to decide about where the levees out to be? aint that what this has been all about in the past year?