tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19615457.post963619527753376508..comments2024-03-10T03:46:08.735-05:00Comments on <center>Istoria Ministries Article Archive</center>: Only the Holy Scriptures Have Told Us the FutureWade Burlesonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01968442835088008681noreply@blogger.comBlogger49125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19615457.post-21322330938874976112021-08-03T18:00:21.835-05:002021-08-03T18:00:21.835-05:00Doctrinal variations and interpretations spin off ...Doctrinal variations and interpretations spin off both a canon with 66 books and a 66 + apocrypha (RCC). <br /><br />Scott Shaverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09938749553589282361noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19615457.post-78139874288561474382021-08-03T17:56:12.065-05:002021-08-03T17:56:12.065-05:00If you are conversant with the history of canoniza...If you are conversant with the history of canonization adopted by both Catholics and Protestants, you're there. Scott Shaverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09938749553589282361noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19615457.post-11931945250105478552021-08-02T12:50:30.523-05:002021-08-02T12:50:30.523-05:00What is the Baptist idea of the full history of th...What is the Baptist idea of the full history of the 'canon' of sacred Scripture?<br />I have never understood what it is and how it impacts concepts like 'Who Christ is" and "the Doctrine of the Holy Trinity".<br /><br />I would appreciate some light on this topic, if anyone cares to share.Christianehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15969310497166526545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19615457.post-60687704835334196332021-08-02T12:47:28.960-05:002021-08-02T12:47:28.960-05:00A little history on how 'the Bible' ended ...A little history on how 'the Bible' ended up in our hands:<br /><br />I love the history of the Church in the British Isles, especially during the time of the Anglo-Saxon Chronicles and the Danelaw . . . and I love the history of how sacred Scripture was preserved and passed down, so I share something from that time that I thought might have meaning for others.<br /><br />If you trace the history of sacred Scripture in Britain from the King James Bible back into previous centuries, you will come to Tyndale, Wyclif, and before them, Alcuin.<br />And before Alcuin, to Ceolfrith and to the ‘Lindisfarne Gospels’ which were copied and illuminated beautifully (in the tradition of the Book of Kells) in the ‘scriptorium’ room at Lindisfarne Abbey (founded by Aiden).<br />The tradition of the ‘scriptoriums’ (rooms where Scripture was copied by hand) goes back even further to the time of the Septuagint scholars who were set to work on the island in the harbor of Alexandria and produced a Greek translation of the Old Testament, through Saint Jerome and his Vulgate tradition, through Cassiodorus and his reworking of Jerome’s Vulgate of the old Latin texts.<br /><br />The Lindisfarne Gospels represent the ancient tradition of ‘receiving what was handed down and preserving it to pass on intact’,<br />and in the scriptorium on Lindisfarne, the hand-written sacred texts were copied with great care according to that tradition.<br />The printing-press would not be invented for another eight centuries into the future, so these monastic scriptoriums were an important connection for the sacred writings to be preserved and passed on.<br /><br />It’s good to know something of the history of how sacred Scripture ended up in our hands . . . there was a long line of people who cared greatly that this should happen, and they too were members of the Body of Christ and their work was a part of the heritage of all Christian people<br /><br />BTW, the first Viking raid in the 900’s was an attack on Lindisfarne, where the monastery was plundered and where many were slaughtered. That also, is a famous part of British history and soon the Vikings made colonies in Britain and for a time a portion of Britain was ruled by them during the ‘Danelaw’. They were converted to Christianity . . . so their forbears came to rob and kill, and instead their descendents found a ‘pearl of great price’, the holy faith of Our Lord.<br />Not a bad thing to know about, I think.<br /><br />P.S. The ancient Anglo-Saxon Chronicles tell of that first Viking raid on ‘Holy Island’ ( Lindisfarne ).Christianehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15969310497166526545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19615457.post-60683294339452056272021-08-02T11:19:18.758-05:002021-08-02T11:19:18.758-05:00Very interesting take on James,Rex. Luther didn...Very interesting take on James,Rex. Luther didn't want it in the canon.<br /><br />As to theophanies, I don't think any consensus of "doctrinal" orthodoxy has ever been reached.Scott Shaverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09938749553589282361noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19615457.post-51831682629632456882021-08-02T08:02:31.847-05:002021-08-02T08:02:31.847-05:00Scott Shaver,
“Show me where in Scripture the Wor...Scott Shaver,<br /><br />“Show me where in Scripture the Word of God is settled or supplemented by the doctrines of man.”<br /><br />Scott, there’s two ways that men teach how to be saved: Jesus plus NOTHING, and Jesus plus SOMETHING.<br /><br />Jesus said: “And so you cancel the word of God in order to hand down your own tradition. …” (Mark 7:13 NLT) <br /><br />Scott, do these words sound like tradition? “For these laws of Moses have been preached in Jewish synagogues in every city on every Sabbath for many generations.” (Acts 15:21 NLT) (These words of James are backing up what he said was FALSE.)<br /><br />James used tradition that BURDENED the Gentiles in order to be saved which disagreed with Peter saying: “So why are you now CHALLENGING God by BURDENING the Gentile believers with a yoke that neither we nor our ancestors were able to bear? We believe that we are all saved the same way, by the underserved grace of the Lord Jesus.” (Acts 15:11 NLT) <br /><br />Peter was rebuking, “…some of the believers who belonged to the sect of the Pharisees stood up and insisted, “The Gentile converts must be circumcised and required to follow the law of Moses.” <br /><br />“Everyone listened quietly as Barnabas and Paul told about the miraculous signs and wonders God had done through them among the Gentiles.” (Acts 15:12 NLT)<br /><br />Scott, I believe if this Council at Jerusalem had been adjourned after Barnabas and Paul stopped talking every Christian would be Baptist. :)<br /><br />Oh, but it wasn’t adjourned:<br /><br />“When they had finished, James stood and said, “Brothers, listen to me…” (Acts 15:13 NLT)<br />In verses 14-18, James brags on Peter and speaks about Scripture telling Gentiles will be saved.<br /><br />“And so my judgement [who made him the judge?] is that we should not make it difficult for the Gentiles who are turning to God. Instead, we should write and tell them to abstain from eating food offered to idols, from sexual immorality, and eating meat of strangled animals, and from consuming blood. For these laws of Moses have been preached in Jewish synagogues in every city on ever Sabbath for many generations.” (Acts 15:19-21 NLT)<br /><br />Scott, remember Peter saying? “CHALLENGING God by BURDENING the Gentile believers…”<br /><br />Well, listen to what James said:<br /> <br />“For it seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us to lay no greater BURDEN on you than these few requirements. (Acts15:28 NLT) <br /><br />Scott, how did James get the Holy Spirit on his side?<br />Rex Rayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06976501582240117188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19615457.post-11301705555064239602021-08-02T04:57:16.088-05:002021-08-02T04:57:16.088-05:00So established "doctrine", whether full ...So established "doctrine", whether full or partial canon is equivalent to eternal truth?<br /><br />Show me where in Scripture the Word of God is settled or supplemented by the doctrines of man.Scott Shaverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09938749553589282361noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19615457.post-38158582930140569932021-08-02T01:17:09.842-05:002021-08-02T01:17:09.842-05:00CHRISTIANE,
I knew if anyone replied to our famil...CHRISTIANE,<br /><br />I knew if anyone replied to our family reunion, it’d be you. Thanks.<br /><br />Judy has a chair that has buttons to recline etc. I’ve named it the ‘moan and groan chair’. Our living room was filled with people. They laughed when Judy punched a button, and my brother in-law, Rollie said, “Judy, are you having a problem?”<br /> <br />He has two granddaughters, Torie and Emily that are 11 and 12. Emily is the youngest and is witty like Rollie.<br /><br />Emily came in last in a cross-country race. Rollie said, “Well, that ends your season. She said, “Career.”<br /><br />Once, Rollie gave something to Torie, and she made a ‘face’ at Emily. Rollie scolded Torie, “I see that smirk!” <br />Torie said, “What’s a smirk?”<br />Emily said, “That’s when you get something you want and I didn’t.” <br /><br />At the reunion, Emily met a relative for the first time. He had hair that stood out almost two feet. Later, she said, “Aa ha; the Missing Link.” <br />Rex Rayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06976501582240117188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19615457.post-43100175822627312772021-08-01T15:12:21.719-05:002021-08-01T15:12:21.719-05:00Quoting Scott Shaver: No man-made "doctrine&q...Quoting Scott Shaver: No man-made "doctrine" is settled. Only the Word of God is set.<br /><br />Actually, that is not entirely correct. As members of the evangelical/protestant community there are a couple of settled doctrines not explicitly set out in scripture that come to mind immediately.<br /><br />One is the doctrine of the trinity. It is not explicitly stated anywhere in scripture; this is solely an interpretation of men.<br /><br />Another is the closure of the biblical canon itself. Our Bible has fewer books than the Catholic version but we declare it complete and closed to further additions or subtractions. There is nothing in scripture that states this is correct.Ruthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08028728988718117138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19615457.post-52635191191924477372021-08-01T14:53:33.674-05:002021-08-01T14:53:33.674-05:00I find it distressing that biblical typology varia...I find it distressing that biblical typology variations are a matter of grave concern among "Christians". As long as they end up at the cross, we're on the same page.Scott Shaverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09938749553589282361noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19615457.post-67697628565108186192021-08-01T14:41:29.681-05:002021-08-01T14:41:29.681-05:00Your premillenial argument falls flat in my person...Your premillenial argument falls flat in my personal view, but I respect your scholarship and spirit of inquiry.Scott Shaverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09938749553589282361noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19615457.post-67051936879795183892021-08-01T14:20:40.062-05:002021-08-01T14:20:40.062-05:00Ruth:
You, Myself, Wade, all of us, have differen...Ruth:<br /><br />You, Myself, Wade, all of us, have different views on "authoritative" Hebrew "scources".<br /><br />We are 2000 years removed from the vernacular of ancient biblical Hebrew and culture. Nothing in the area of speculation should be lifted to the level of "canon".<br /><br />Sola Scriptura. The Priesthood of THE Believer. The guidance of the Holy Spirit and the collective testimonies of the LOCAL CHURCH.<br /><br />ALL OTHERS be damned.Scott Shaverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09938749553589282361noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19615457.post-58765962587527960562021-08-01T14:11:44.269-05:002021-08-01T14:11:44.269-05:00"To be absent fron the body IS to be present ... "To be absent fron the body IS to be present with tbe Lord".<br />👍Scott Shaverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09938749553589282361noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19615457.post-91172362977310977442021-08-01T14:00:42.784-05:002021-08-01T14:00:42.784-05:00Christianne:
If you don't limit how "Chr...Christianne:<br /><br />If you don't limit how "Christ saves", you don't have much use for his teaching on being "born again". Refute that from Holy Writ if you please.Scott Shaverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09938749553589282361noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19615457.post-19362944059799748072021-08-01T13:57:54.591-05:002021-08-01T13:57:54.591-05:00The idea of anything I've ever seen from the k...The idea of anything I've ever seen from the keypad of Wade Burleson is a direct affront to ANY Jehovah's Witness theology under the spotlight.<br /><br />What r u smoking?Scott Shaverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09938749553589282361noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19615457.post-15875652546057780982021-08-01T12:58:28.229-05:002021-08-01T12:58:28.229-05:00Hello out there REX RAY,
I loved your stores (mem...Hello out there REX RAY,<br /><br />I loved your stores (memories)! They are written in your own voice and it is as we can see what is happening from that wonderful way that you write them. <br /><br />Thanks for sharing with us. :) Your stories always make my day. <br /><br />Have a good Lord's Day and let me know what the doctors have planned to help you with your ankle in future. Hope the pain pills are helping you to sleep some. Christianehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15969310497166526545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19615457.post-18557195258142791202021-08-01T12:45:24.416-05:002021-08-01T12:45:24.416-05:00"Theophany" is a good choice of word, Ru..."Theophany" is a good choice of word, Ruth. :)<br /><br />There are many 'Christ figures' in the OT. I think that C.S. Lewis gave us some insight into 'why' such pre-figuring makes sense in 'our world', this:<br /><br />"“It isn't Narnia, you know," sobbed Lucy. "It's you. We shan't meet you there. And how can we live, never meeting you?"<br />"But you shall meet me, dear one," said Aslan.<br />"Are -are you there too, Sir?" said Edmund.<br />"I am," said Aslan. "But there I have another name. You must learn to know me by that name. This was the very reason why you were brought to Narnia, that by knowing me here for a little, you may know me better there.”<br /> (C.S. Lewis, The Voyage of the Dawn Treader)<br /><br /><br />The thing is, we all saw 'Aslan' as a Christ-figure. Not as some 'idol' taking Our Lord's place but as how Christ could be in a world like Narnia. No, we don't worship lions, far from it, as sadly the wealthiest hunters in this world savagely pursue and kill them for trophies. <br /><br />But for those who could not 'grasp' the concept of Christ in 'our world', the stories of CS Lewis may have helped them to 'transfer' that image of tremendous power and goodness seen in the character of 'Aslan' to the ways in which Our Lord is presented in 'this world' in sacred Scripture. <br /><br />Looking at the OT, perhaps God in His great wisdom also 'prepared' human beings over millennia through pre-figurations of the coming of salvation in the Incarnation of Our Lord as Christ, fully God in the second Person of the Holy Trinity AND fully Man, though without sin. <br /><br />Maybe CS Lewis got his idea to write about Aslan in Narnia from the 'theophany' seen in the O.T.? <br /><br />We are human. We 'can't' understand the great mysteries like the Incarnation, no.<br />But we can relate to 'stories' that are within our grasp and our imagination to embrace. When these 'stories' help convery 'THE STORY' to us, it is a kindness from God to allow this for us. Thanks, Ruth, for the word 'theophany'. It works for me.<br /><br /><br />How else were we to accept the Logos, the Creator of All, as the Incarnated Christ in the form of an infant born to young girl in stable in a place called Bethlehem two thousand years ago? The wisdom of God is seen in how we were 'prepared' and that is 'why' at Christmas-tide, we read from the prophets of Who He would be and how He would come to us in God's time. <br /><br />Likely the great angels of the 'strata' that resounded at His birth, frightened the shepherds in the fields with the power of their sound, so that their first message to the shepherds was <br />'Fear not, for behold I bring you tidings of great joy'. <br /><br />Christianehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15969310497166526545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19615457.post-63042822105608755792021-08-01T06:40:32.192-05:002021-08-01T06:40:32.192-05:00No man-made "doctrine" is settled. Only ...No man-made "doctrine" is settled. Only the Word of God is set.Scott Shaverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09938749553589282361noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19615457.post-81602574334187440072021-08-01T06:32:34.302-05:002021-08-01T06:32:34.302-05:00Does nothing to detract from my interest in WHY, a...Does nothing to detract from my interest in WHY, as Joshua BOWED before him, would the archangel tell him to "take off your shoes, the place where you stand is HOLY ground"😎Scott Shaverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09938749553589282361noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19615457.post-56047000304204413732021-08-01T06:05:24.314-05:002021-08-01T06:05:24.314-05:00With all due respect Ruth:
I'm not sure Wade&...With all due respect Ruth:<br /><br />I'm not sure Wade's intent is to utilize his blog primarily as a comparative or systematic theology class.<br /><br />Looks like he addresses religious,societal and cultural issues from a Christian perspective based on his own convictions, research and conclusions.<br /><br />He let's commentators (like us) do the theology in the space he provides after intellectually and spiritually priming the pump.<br /><br />I love the approach and would not change a thing, personally.Scott Shaverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09938749553589282361noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19615457.post-63802387834469885812021-08-01T05:58:14.639-05:002021-08-01T05:58:14.639-05:00Rex:
All I can say is that your interpretation of...Rex:<br /><br />All I can say is that your interpretation of the dynamics at work in the early church based on Scripture is more logical, consistent and feasible (IMO) than the TDS a la Christianne I read based on her interpretation of Holy Writ.<br /><br />As to the typology of the Old and New Testaments (specifically with reference to the archangel Michael) I line up pretty much square with Wade's take.<br /><br />Hint: Michael represents the ONLY "angel" in Scripture for whom there is record of human believers bowing before (theophany?)<br /><br />New Testament instructs against the worship of angels as Satan is capable of transforming himsel into "an angel of light".Scott Shaverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09938749553589282361noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19615457.post-63972855630385033282021-08-01T00:35:20.217-05:002021-08-01T00:35:20.217-05:00CHRISTIANE,
Yes, we had a good reunion. I’d been ...CHRISTIANE,<br /><br />Yes, we had a good reunion. I’d been asked to write stories. It took 12 pages. Everyone got a copy. I started with what I’d remembered first:<br /><br /> Memories by Rex Ray<br />When we were about five, we lived near the ocean at Galveston, Texas. Our father made us a small boat that we loved to ride in shallow water at the beach. One day, we wanted mother to ride in it.<br /> “Oh, it won’t hold me up.”<br /> “Yes, it will Mama, yes, it will!”<br /> To oblige, she went straight to the bottom in three feet of water.<br /><br />That same year, our neighbor had a Shetland pony. A fence separated us. Hez liked to tease the pony with a carrot. He’d hold it out, then jerk it away. One day, the pony had enough and bit him on the shoulder. He cried to Mother, but she told him to leave the pony alone.<br /> I was mad at the pony, and did what Hez had done; got bit in the same place.<br /><br />When we were six, we learned how to make a cake by watching Mother. We decided to make some and sell them by knocking on doors in the neighborhood. We asked a lady if she’d like to buy a cake.<br /> “Are you the sons whose mother has a broken leg and has just had a baby?”<br /> “Yes, mam.”<br /> “Here’s the money, but please sell it to someone else.”<br /> “Oh no. You keep it.”<br /> We told Mother, and she asked what the cake looked like.<br /> “It looked perfect, but it was white as a sheet on the bottom.”<br /> Mother ended our neighborhood business quickly.<br /><br />We were 7 when we started to school. We liked to climb flag poles. Our neighbor had a good one. I was at the top when their 5-year-old girl started yelling at me. Her older sister told her to shut-up, but she wouldn’t.<br /> I vowed never again to wear short britches without underwear, because she was yelling, “Rex, what’s that between your legs?”<br /><br />That same year, we’d raced each other, but our dog, Pluto, would bite our britches and trip us. I said, “If Pluto trips me again, I’m going to kick him”<br /> “Your better not kick Pluto!”<br /> BANG! I saw stars. Hez had hit me with a rock. Blood started running from my head. He beat me running to the house. He was crying so loud Mother thought he was hurt. She finally understood what he was saying: “Rex’s brains are running out.” That was the last time he ever hit me.<br />Rex Rayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06976501582240117188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19615457.post-42692461640102697922021-07-31T23:28:30.457-05:002021-07-31T23:28:30.457-05:00Wade: Thank you for acknowledging that these matte...Wade: Thank you for acknowledging that these matters are interpretation, not settled Hebrew canon. I appreciate your honesty. Please, if you would, make sure that you make that point clear in your teaching and let people know that it is possible for any scholar’s interpretation to be incorrect. Lead your people to study and read both the scripture and multiple theological sources. There are many, many people who are not willing to question anything taught by a pastor. I, of course, am NOT one of those people :-)<br /><br />RB Kuter: We agree again. That was my reasoning for my original post; I found it very distressing that Wade was planning to teach only a scriptural interpretation which appeared to me to be perilously close to the heresy of the Jehovah’s Witnesses.<br /><br />Christiane: Yes, it is entirely possible that some scholars see the archangel Michael as a theophany of the Christ. It would not have bothered me if I thought these scholars were including that idea in their writings. However, given the statements which Wade included it does not seem to be something they even contemplated; these statements flatly say that they believe the archangel is Christ, and leave no room for any other interpretation. Given that this idea is not settled doctrine, it seems to me that it would be wise to include other interpretations in his teaching or even just mention that there are other biblical scholars who disagree with this particular interpretation.Ruthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08028728988718117138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19615457.post-80692245667363050332021-07-31T21:06:54.723-05:002021-07-31T21:06:54.723-05:00REX RAY, I hear you!
I hope you had a nice famil...REX RAY, I hear you!<br /><br />I hope you had a nice family reunion today. Christianehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15969310497166526545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19615457.post-38572087323302244602021-07-31T20:48:25.253-05:002021-07-31T20:48:25.253-05:00CHRISTIANE,
“Now if Wade could only help you with ...CHRISTIANE,<br />“Now if Wade could only help you with that conspiracy theory about St. James, LOL”<br /><br />JAMES WAS NO SAINT<br /><br />These are the comments on Wade’s Post: “We all should have paid attention in Greek Class.” July 10, 2021:<br /><br />Rex said<br />JAMES WARNS PAUL HIS LIFE IS IN DANGER<br />“The next day Paul went with us to meet with James and the elders of the Jerusalem church…You know, dear brother, how many thousands of Jews have also believed, and they all follow the law of Moses very seriously. But the Jewish believers in Jerusalem have been told that you are teaching all the Jews who live among the Gentiles to turn their backs on the laws of Moses. They’ve heard that you teach them not to circumcise their children or follow other Jewish customs. What should we do? They will certainly hear that you have come.” (21:18-22)<br /><br />Scott, I believe the thousands of Jews James referred to was his church. Paul was the hero of the Gentile churches. If his church killed Paul, James would lose control of the Gentile churches. Paul was in Jerusalem 3 days before he met James and the elders. This gave them time to come up with a ‘plan’ because in the same breath they asked “What should we do?”, they had the answer.<br /><br />“Here’s what we want you to do. We have four men who have completed their vow. Go with them to the Temple and join them in the purification ceremony, paying for them to have their heads ritually shaved. Then everyone will know that the rumors are all false and that you yourself observe the Jewish laws.” (21:23-24)<br /><br />Scott, James wants Paul to go to the Temple where the Jewish Leaders are! “Five different times the Jewish leaders gave me the thirty-nine lashes. Three times I was beaten with rods. Once I was stoned…” (Second Corinthians 11:24-25)<br /><br />Scott, Paul goes to the Temple 7 days to complete his vow. Maybe because his head was shaved, no one recognized him. There’s no proof of what I believe that James told a cohort to identify Paul to someone that wouldn’t recognize him.<br /><br />“The seven days were almost ended when some Jews from the province of Asia saw Paul in the Temple and roused a mob against him…” (21:27)<br />“As they were trying to kill him, word reached the commander of the Roman regiment…He immediately called out his soldiers and officers and ran down among the crowd. When the mob saw the commander and troops coming, they stopped beating Paul.” (31-32)<br /><br />Scott, at Paul’s first trial before Felix only his accusers were present. James and the elders were absent in capture 24. (Paul will refer to their absence in 2 Timothy.)<br /><br />Book of Second Timothy Overview - Insight for Living Ministries<br />“Paul wrote 2 Timothy from a dark and damp Roman prison cell, just before his death in AD 67.”<br /><br />“…The time of my death is near.” (2 Timothy 4:6)<br /><br />Scott, remember the prayer Paul heard Steven pray?<br /><br />“The first time I was brought before the judge, no one came with me. Everyone abandoned me. MAY IT NOT BE COUNTED AGAINST THEM.” (2 Timothy 4:16)<br /><br />I believe he was referring to the ones that called him “…dear brother…” (Acts 21:20)<br />Thu Jun 24, 03:36:00 AM 2021<br /><br />Wade Burleson said...Rex, very interesting take on an event in the New Testament that I've never thought through. Thank you. Thu Jun 24, 10:13:00 AM 2021<br />Rex Rayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06976501582240117188noreply@blogger.com