tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19615457.post6935234838751750549..comments2024-03-10T03:46:08.735-05:00Comments on <center>Istoria Ministries Article Archive</center>: Shake Off the Dust, ARISE, and Sit Down! - Is. 52:2Wade Burlesonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01968442835088008681noreply@blogger.comBlogger48125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19615457.post-53317510175673514942021-09-27T07:36:19.911-05:002021-09-27T07:36:19.911-05:00Anon E. "For my spiritual governance thankful...Anon E. "For my spiritual governance thankfully, that is a constant and unchanging loving God. (Of course, I have to be willing to allow God to govern.....stiff necked human that I am.....)"<br /><br />Perhaps God is allowing things to get this bad and worse so that when our King does return to initiated "His" governance we can fully appreciate the contrast between "our" ways and "God's" ways. <br /><br />It seems to me to be a heavy cloud over the societies of the entire world. I have friends whose personalities have changed from being uplifted, and positive and cheerful to being angry and seemingly oppressed and frustrated. It's no wonder. I occasionally turn on the morning news only to see smiling, gay, happy-looking, TV personalities reporting constantly on additional Covid vaccines, boosters, vaccines for little children, mandates, full hospitals,and then add a sprinkling of reports of overnight shootings and murders, rapes and tens of thousands of illegal intruders surging across our southern borders. The cheerful reporters admonish the Border Agents for putting their horses between the border and the invaders and even sometimes flipping the reins at the illegals as their only means to deter them from forced entry. All the while the reporters look like they are celebrating and rejoicing at all of the chaos and destruction.<br /><br />Any "positive" news? Maybe a warm, fuzzy account of a transgender who overcomes all adversity to live their life in a new, improved identity.<br /><br />It is difficult not to get caught up in all of Satan's hype and destructive propaganda and instead to project a life of joy, peace, and productivity of being a child of God. I have been thinking I need to visit one of my close brothers in Christ whose personality has altered to see if there is anything I can do to encourage him. He is obviously undergoing spiritual attack and needs a brother to walk with him.RB Kuterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13559291446578456981noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19615457.post-12995475747003159362021-09-27T07:18:29.535-05:002021-09-27T07:18:29.535-05:00Rex Ray, I've heard of similar reports of folk...Rex Ray, I've heard of similar reports of folks getting shingles following their taking the needle. I like the explanation as to why there is no connection by the pro-vac people that just because you get something following taking the vaccination doesn't mean there is a connection. RB Kuterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13559291446578456981noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19615457.post-7237425048788428412021-09-27T06:24:31.434-05:002021-09-27T06:24:31.434-05:00Another link:
https://www.flatlandkc.org/news-iss...Another link:<br /><br />https://www.flatlandkc.org/news-issues/health/getting-shingles-or-hives-after-the-shot-experts-connect-the-dots/<br /><br />I thought it was funny what one guy said who opposed the two links. He said, “It’s like the sun comes up because the rooster crows.” <br /><br />(My daughter is 57.) <br />Rex Rayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06976501582240117188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19615457.post-4433612061756641202021-09-27T06:01:09.956-05:002021-09-27T06:01:09.956-05:00https://www.ajc.com/pulse/why-you-might-have-a-shi...https://www.ajc.com/pulse/why-you-might-have-a-shingles-flare-up-after-your-covid-vaccination/U4MPENQYQNAXBJ3GLJFVB6ESQQ/<br /><br />“Doctors in Israel recently reported that six women with autoimmune disorders developed the painful rash 3-14 days after a first or second dose of Pfizer’s COVID-19 vaccine. Some people used this information to form a correlation between the vaccine and the virus.”<br /><br />I believe this is true because it happened to my daughter.<br />Rex Rayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06976501582240117188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19615457.post-1483567963674429942021-09-26T20:51:23.156-05:002021-09-26T20:51:23.156-05:00Who governs us? Is it not obvious -- the "De...Who governs us? Is it not obvious -- the "Deep State" or the "Administrative State" or whatever you want to call it.<br /><br />We like to think that we are governed the way that we were taught -- that we live in a republic where we elect leaders and they then vote on bills that influence our lives via subsequent laws (and budgets), but as the government has grown, a deep administrative state, that seems to only look out for it's own best interests has grown.<br /><br />Young girls being molested by coaches (the gymnast story) reported their molestation to the FBI but nothing was done. It was buried, because.....?? And now there was a hearing, but those at fault seem to be beyond the reach of discipline at this late date.<br /><br />There is a "J6 Rally" reportedly to protest the imprisonment of people that took part in the January 6 insurrection......there were more people from the FBI and the press than from the reported protest group.<br /><br />Nancy Pelosi famously said of Obamacare that you have to pass the bill to find out what is in the bill. I attempted to read the bill as it was coming up (OK, not the whole thing, just sections.....it was something like 2100 pages). It literally said things like "change paragraph 10 line 8 of regulation 230.1245 to read "not."" I personally think that every bill needs to be understandable on it's own -- none of this change some other regulation not easily available to read "not" rather than..... <br /><br />Look at the current state -- Biden puts out a vaccine mandate. Immediate questions arise: 'well, we don't know. We are going to have to wait and see what OSHA comes up with.' BUT we are going to have a vaccine mandate because you know the 'rona is particularly affecting all companies employing more than 100 people (those lucky people working for companies with only 99 employees just seem to be immune by virtue of working for a company of 99 people). Once again, Congress is exempt from the vaccine mandate....just kind of like they were exempt from Obamacare. Nothing to see here.....keep moving along young plebe.<br /><br />Now, we have the public health care apparatus governing us in ways that I thought that US citizens would never allow. Elizabeth Warren is now trying to codify the craziness with a bill that would resurrect the eviction moratorium: the “Keeping Renters Safe Act of 2021.” This bill would give the CDC the authority to re-enact the rent moratorium, applying automatically to all rentals. This would remain in place until 60 days beyond the “conclusion of the public health emergency." What could go wrong here? <br /><br />Does anyone really want to tackle the question of who is responsible for our governance? For our earthly governance, it is slowly growing into a morass of career politicians and bureaucrats. For my spiritual governance thankfully, that is a constant and unchanging loving God. (Of course, I have to be willing to allow God to govern.....stiff necked human that I am.....)Anon.E.Moosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11645609952596310491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19615457.post-34287524269662233742021-09-26T17:51:48.237-05:002021-09-26T17:51:48.237-05:00Tom wrote: "People today do not know who is p...Tom wrote: "People today do not know who is primarily responsible for their governance."<br /><br />This is a very true statement but personally I am convinced that the fault does not lie entirely in the indifference of the people. The normal person struggles to discern fact from fiction, authentic reports from imposed propaganda, reality from an instigated media movement impacting the general population.<br /><br />My opinion, not entirely based upon speculation but from "signs" and unintended leaks is that there are "behind the scene power players" orchestrating the events and trends on a global scale. True, individual nations and their central governments wield much power but they are not the sovereign or ultimate authorities. They are serving, either wittingly or not, forces that are bent on globalization through the undermining of the concept of individual nations.<br /><br />Likely "Global Wizards Operating Behind the Curtain" are the likes of George Soros whose "Open Society Foundations (OSF) is a grant-making network founded by business magnate George Soros. OSF "publicly identifies itself as financially supporting civil society groups around the world, with a stated aim of advancing justice, education, public health and independent media. The basic precepts of Soros' ideology seems to be that "globalization" with the minimization at best, elimination entirely, at worst, of the concept of individual nations would best serve humanity.<br /><br />Bill Gates is another extremely powerful player in events taking place whose along with Warren Buffet, neither of which are enemies of the proposal that globalization would expedite solutions to the world's problems and increase progress to a better world society. I doubt that any "one" of these personalities is in control but collectively or under the direction of even higher forces would more likely be the case.<br /><br />That being said, I do not believe that our current US President has much to say about anything that is done. He is a pawn being played by higher forces. It is difficult for me to believe that his actions are not being directed by more powerful forces/influences surrounding him and that their strategies are consistent with others that are in even higher positions of directing world affairs.<br /><br />What evidence do I have for such a conspiracy "theory"? I do not want to bore readers with why I have come to these conclusions except to say that if you see wildfires breaking out throughout the forests and see shadows of people carrying gas cans and matches you might begin to suspect that the fires are not entirely being ignited by lightning strikes.<br /><br />I try to be vigilant in objectively reading available signals and activities and not to reject the legitimacy of some options simply because they are not assumed as credible by popular opinion/media. Admittedly, my assessments ultimately are influenced by how things might be falling into place with God's prophesied events.RB Kuterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13559291446578456981noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19615457.post-6454094922154143782021-09-26T17:50:43.752-05:002021-09-26T17:50:43.752-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.RB Kuterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13559291446578456981noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19615457.post-74877358379261140732021-09-26T15:35:17.481-05:002021-09-26T15:35:17.481-05:00Neil,
The accuracy of the historical story depend...Neil,<br /><br />The accuracy of the historical story depends on who will rightly write the story.<br /><br />Smaller dams have been built within the an adjacent catchment area, but in one case no one checked up on how hard the water was to treat.<br /><br />The Wolffdene Dam was the last dam that could be built in the SE to supply the water needed for an expanding population. The number of so called corrupt members of NP members that were holding out, at the time of the election, on selling their properties was, from what I have been told, three. The land bank owner did not want the dam to be built because it devalued his holding to much and the LP saw that the corruption storyline would win them an election. In my view the dam still needs to be built, but the cost of reacquiring the necessary land for the dam is to high for it to now proceed. Oh well, good stories are hard to come by in any situation.<br /><br />Political expediency is really only another word for corrupt activity by a political party. <br /><br />ShalomTomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16960396811279003662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19615457.post-58687677941264377992021-09-26T00:23:33.275-05:002021-09-26T00:23:33.275-05:00Tom,
Don't be so vague. Say the names and the...Tom,<br /><br />Don't be so vague. Say the names and the place. I've worked out from your limited information it was the Qld premier Wayne Goss. But was it the Wolffdene dam?<br /><br />Please name the suburb that this slum is located.Neil Cameron (One Salient Oversight)https://www.blogger.com/profile/03143948543305522865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19615457.post-38003712033279898792021-09-25T15:57:55.559-05:002021-09-25T15:57:55.559-05:00Neil,
You asked
"The outcome was a slum dev...Neil,<br /><br />You asked<br /><br /><i>"The outcome was a slum development in the area where the dam would have been built."<br /><br />Which state of Australia is this?<br /><br />As far as I know, there's nowhere in Australia that can be labelled a "slum". There are poor areas, but not slums.</i><br /><br />The Australian state is the one where it ended up with a “media tart” as premier for a long time, a number of years later.<br /><br />The year was 94, and the advisers to the then to be elected, one term premier, was Kevin Rudd and Wayne Swann.<br /><br />The houses built in this development are so close together that thieves can out run the “law” by running across the tin roof tops and so out run the law. A slum is a state of mind by the people living in it and that state of mind can take a number of years to materialise as the people begin to lose all hope because of where they live. My experience from travelling overseas is that some of the richest people, I have rubbed shoulders with, actually live in what we would call slums and their richness is found in the people that they have become.<br /><br />The problems we have is because of the deliberate dumbing down of the western society that we live in.<br /><br />People today do not know who is primarily responsible for their governance.<br /><br />People today do not know who is primarily responsible for the enforcement of law and order.<br /><br />People today do not know that “freedom” is a spiritually quantified entity that no one can take from them but that they can be enticed to relinquish their grasp on it.<br /><br />People are so self-centred in their focus, that the “god” that they hold dear to themselves is themselves and they are at the centre of their own universe.<br /><br />Sadly people today are paupers because they have no time to contemplate their navels. They cannot perceive what it takes to climb out of their self-made dilemmas. Their minds trap them in the reality that they find themselves in and they can see no way of escaping.<br /><br />ShalomTomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16960396811279003662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19615457.post-38708031403217908332021-09-25T15:15:59.250-05:002021-09-25T15:15:59.250-05:00Rex Ray, personally, I don't believe it is for...Rex Ray, personally, I don't believe it is for personal monetary gain given that all of those involved are so filthy rich they can't even count the amount of money they have. I do think they are striving to accumulate more and more millions to buy advertising to influence the public. ALL of them on both sides are playing this game.<br /><br />I'm pretty sure their personal motive is "power". RB Kuterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13559291446578456981noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19615457.post-31939910037433480452021-09-25T09:49:39.739-05:002021-09-25T09:49:39.739-05:00Rex:
My answer would be an emphatic yes to all th...Rex:<br /><br />My answer would be an emphatic yes to all three. We are so far gone we’re having trouble remembering what the shoreline looks like.Scott Shaverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13233508952431336544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19615457.post-64635660470759212612021-09-25T08:47:29.683-05:002021-09-25T08:47:29.683-05:00I’m beginning to wonder if our present system of g...I’m beginning to wonder if our present system of government is right. The reason is a couple of years ago I gave a politician a sizable contribution. <br /><br />Ever since then, I’ve been bombarded with letters asking for money; as many as 5 letters a day. I usually don’t open them as I can tell by the return address. <br /><br />Once I received a long phone call by some lady asking for more money that I gave to my ‘hero’ in government. I told her I believed I’d already given my share and hung up.<br /><br />CONCLUSION: Does the side with the most money win by ‘buying votes’; advertising on TV and newspapers, or they adding to their bank account? <br /><br />Maybe a portion of all three?<br />Rex Rayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06976501582240117188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19615457.post-69224636139048970182021-09-25T08:24:53.954-05:002021-09-25T08:24:53.954-05:00Neil, Tom, after sleeping on it, I concluded that ...Neil, Tom, after sleeping on it, I concluded that the problem is our decadent society from which the national mindset is derived. Any system will fail in terms of functioning in a manner that is just and righteous as long as the population is primarily immoral, self-serving and corrupt. <br /><br />That being the case here, any representatives chosen will reflect the mood and sentiments of that population from which it was chosen. People are indeed duped into supporting politicians with millions of dollars in their propaganda machines who are promising free gifts of livelihood and prosperity with zero effort required by the population when the people are indifferent as to the well-being of their neighbors and the rationale of doing what is "right". So corrupt, self-serving, greedy, representatives are elected by the people. The same sordid sort would be put into the government no matter if they were chosen by random lottery or any other method. <br /><br />If you have a barrel of rotten apples and pull a few out to serve as samples of what the entire lot is like, you will have a "rotten" sample group no matter what method you use to extract the sample. <br /><br />People whose moral fabric has been totally obliterated want to live without boundaries, without laws that impose limits to their self-gratification and they do not have the capacity to see the logic of there being consequences to their foolish actions. In other words, when a society is dominated by what Scripture defines as being "fools", they will chew their leg off to remedy an itchy toe.<br /><br />That being the case, the government will reflect the same ideology, immorality, and self-serving agenda as does individual citizens no matter if it is a parliamentary structure, Sortition, or any other.<br /><br />How to impact the spiritual/moral condition of a nation is the question which should be asked. IF this is God's providential time for the world to be moving into that final chapter this "age" and toward entry into the "Great Tribulation/Anti-Christ/Return of Christ/Armageddon" phase, there is zero possibility of there being a reversal in the spiritual status of the people. The "Church" which would serve as the only source of moral and righteous input into society could be the only hope for a reversal from the current degenerative population but as contemporary assessment shows, the "Church" itself has apparently lost its "salt and light" core for providing remedy.<br /><br />It appears that the worldly influence has impacted the "church" to the point of its sanctification diminishing to make it indistinguishable from the population that surrounds it. I believe that in this day and "age" the authentic "Church" serves as a "remnant" that continues to maintain its Christ-like power but its scope of rescue has become the ministry to the damaged goods brought about by the general society's madness and salvation of those who will choose to enter the haven of God's Kingdom.<br /><br />As I observe the signs of the seasons, I am personally convinced that this is where we are there. RB Kuterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13559291446578456981noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19615457.post-9300601887405136202021-09-24T22:09:38.101-05:002021-09-24T22:09:38.101-05:00I do have ideas on how to reform the executive bra...I do have ideas on how to reform the executive branch of government (president/governor), but that proposal is separate from sortition. I'll be happy to share my ideas though, if anyone is interested.Neil Cameron (One Salient Oversight)https://www.blogger.com/profile/03143948543305522865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19615457.post-17808114656366869712021-09-24T22:07:09.054-05:002021-09-24T22:07:09.054-05:00The only way Sortition could be introduced at the ...The only way Sortition could be introduced at the Federal level in the US would be by a constitutional amendment.<br /><br />Moreover, there would also need to be discussions as to whether the legislative system remain bicameral - House & Senate - or become unicameral.<br /><br />New Zealand has a unicameral parliament - one legislative house only. They used to have a senate, but they got rid of it in 1951. In fact the senators who voted themselves out of parliament were called "the suicide squad". So it is possible for politicians to vote against their own interests:<br /><br />https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_squad_(New_Zealand).<br /><br />A minimalist solution for the US - keeping a bicameral and federal legislature - would be:<br /><br />* A 435 member house, with a 10% turnover every year (44 one year, 43 the next, etc). The 10% of new members will be selected randomly from around the country. At-large representatives will be factored in for small states. The 10% of members removed from the house will be selected from the 10% longest serving members. This effectively gives house members a 10 year term.<br /><br />* A 100 member senate, with 10% turnover every year, same as above except the members will be randomly selected from the state of the senator who is being removed. Eg if a senator from Vermont is retiring, the random selection of a replacement will be only be made from people in Vermont. The 10% of members removed from the Senate will be selected from the 10% longest serving members. This effectively gives senate members a 10 year term.<br /><br />----<br /><br />To be honest, this sort of proposal would actually have the broad support of American progressives (of course, not necessarily the progressives who are actually IN congress of course). If there can be conservative support for it, the chances of it being implemented would be high.<br /><br /><br />Neil Cameron (One Salient Oversight)https://www.blogger.com/profile/03143948543305522865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19615457.post-55628293345101845262021-09-24T21:44:10.744-05:002021-09-24T21:44:10.744-05:00The current system has distorted the original inte...The current system has distorted the original intent of our political structure as to make it a joke in terms of really representing the people.<br /><br />The system you propose would be a lot like our jury system with members of the jury not being career jurists, lawyers, etc. and being randomly (kind of) pulled from the list of citizens in the jurisdiction of the court. Seems to work out reasonably well even though I am sure there are those on the jury who are clueless in terms of figuring out the arguments of the perspective attorneys pleading their case. Hey, seems to be the same in our government!<br /><br />All that you say regarding our current system having the manipulation of political parties, campaign financing, committee assignments and the tendency to re-elect congressmen/women for decades is really a sad situation. I can see the potential for the system you describe. <br /><br />We have shown that "experience" in government certainly does not qualify one to be competent and the best to serve. Whether agreed or not, we have also seen that competence and incompetence in government is certainly not determined by the politician's experience.<br /><br />The current political system in the US is so powerful and bent on sustaining its control that I cannot imagine a significant change taking place in the structure. Add to it those like myself whose tendency is to be leery of change and the untried and it seems hopeless that this corrupt system we have will ever change. <br /><br />Still, at least you guys have helped me to be more informed and equipped to discuss this when conversations allow. Thanks for that. RB Kuterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13559291446578456981noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19615457.post-38263479592148557682021-09-24T20:54:05.225-05:002021-09-24T20:54:05.225-05:00And lastly, look at the amount of time current mem...And lastly, look at the amount of time current members of congress devote to creating laws and bills, and the amount of time they spend with donors and trying to gain support. The amount of time they spend in the latter is much higher than the former. This means that the time an elected member of the legislature spends on legislation is actually very low. This is inefficient.<br /><br />By contrast, if a randomly selected person enters congress, they don't need to spend any time on raising money or pleasing donors or staying in power. And with the time they save no longer doing this, they can spend on learning about important issues, discussing potential bills and laws with other members. In short, 100% of their time can be spent on investigating and researching potential legislation.Neil Cameron (One Salient Oversight)https://www.blogger.com/profile/03143948543305522865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19615457.post-31749475424908370392021-09-24T20:48:28.380-05:002021-09-24T20:48:28.380-05:00(continued)
With sortition, however, this entire ...(continued)<br /><br />With sortition, however, this entire process of influence peddling, raising money, advertising and being beholden to donors is done away with. Since no one knows who is going to be randomly selected, moneyed donors no longer have any power over an individual before they enter congress/parliament. Moreover the randomly selected individual, now in congress, doesn't have anyone breathing down his neck telling him what to do or vote for and threaten him with withdrawing their financial support. <br /><br />Instead, the new randomly selected congressman has complete freedom to support or oppose a bill based on their conscience and their knowledge of the subject. If they're not sure of the issues involved, they can chat with other people who do know the subject, including experts, to give them an idea of what to vote for.<br /><br />And because they're not facing re-election, there's no political price to pay for making up their own mind on whether to support or oppose a bill. They simply make up their own mind, with expert advice.<br /><br />Of course there IS a chance that, once they have joined the legislature, that they will be approached with corrupt intent. They can be promised well paid jobs after they finish their term in office. But simple laws can be set up to prevent and punish anyone who does this sort of thing. In fact, such corrupt intent is expected. However, this sort of danger is something that is already built into the current electoral system anyway.<br /><br />And yes, there will be clowns. But remember that if a legislature accurately creates a microcosm of society, there will be a lot of ordinary non-clown people as well. And if people truly are selected randomly, you will have a 50/50 male/female ratio, an appropriate ratio of various ethnic and cultural groups being selected.<br /><br />And lastly, for us as Christians, it means that the legislature will be filled with as many believers as there are in society. And if Christians are unhappy that there are too few, then the solution is evangelism - the more people who are born again, the more born again Christians will end up in congress. For Christians, this means that our political power is aligned with our desire to spread the Gospel.Neil Cameron (One Salient Oversight)https://www.blogger.com/profile/03143948543305522865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19615457.post-71771777361729565762021-09-24T20:47:57.781-05:002021-09-24T20:47:57.781-05:00Hi RB,
What Tom described is how we place the na...Hi RB, <br /><br />What Tom described is how we place the names of candidates on ballot papers. That's been done for many decades here in Australia.<br /><br />What I'm proposing, and what you have latched onto, is the idea of a random lottery replacing elections.<br /><br />The point you make about whether this system will actually be better than our current one is an important one to ask.<br /><br />The first thing to understand is that sortition is not a perfect system. What I'm proposing won't solve all the problems of the world. It won't create some sort of legislative utopia. <br /><br />But the second thing to understand is that it solves, or improves upon, many of the problems that are associated with modern electoral systems. I believe that it will make the legislative process a lot easier to work.<br /><br />Okay, I'll be a bit long-winded here. Forgive me if it is too long.<br /><br />In the US, as in Australia, as in virtually every electoral system in the world, candidates up for election are usually members of a political party. These political parties are committed to gaining power in the legislature. But if you want to be a elected representative, you have to toe the party line. Example: You might be in support of increasing welfare and introducing medicare for all, so you naturally think about joining the Democrats. But you might also be a Christian who does not support abortion, so you end up having either to compromise on your own beliefs, or else you join the GOP and abandon your social welfare support, or else you don't run at all, or else you run in a third or fourth party or as an independent, and not have much chance of being elected anyway.<br /><br />Moreover, people who run for elections have to navigate through the mire of advertising. They have to raise money to create an effective political campaign. And by being supported by moneyed individuals means that you are "in their pocket" - they're not supporting you out of the goodness of their heart, they're supporting you because they want something from you. This situation faces all politicians around the world of all different ideologies. In the end, the candidate with the most amount of money raised ends up being the candidate that is successful.<br /><br />And that, of course, means that and electoral democracy can easily be swayed by moneyed individuals. The very system itself is corrupted from the beginning, log before a person gets elected. The ancient Athenians discovered this, which is why they then experimented with Sortition.Neil Cameron (One Salient Oversight)https://www.blogger.com/profile/03143948543305522865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19615457.post-66207808116982834072021-09-24T19:45:14.843-05:002021-09-24T19:45:14.843-05:00Neil, okay, I give you back your credibility. Than...Neil, okay, I give you back your credibility. Thanks for being patient and you and Tom leading me through this process. It is totally new information for me and quite different from all of the processes of which I was aware, not that I am an international political science wizard. Have lived in a variety of systems in other lands but not one like this.<br /><br />My impression from our conversation is that the Australian model is a lottery process to determine the order that candidates are listed on the ballot which does seem logical, but not a lottery where citizens from the population are randomly drawn from a lot who are then qualified by the mere basis of having been pulled out of the hat to serve in the national legislative governing body. <br /><br />Although I think that Neil is saying that model of randomly pulling the name of citizens to serve is one that is being discussed in some circles but not implemented in contemporary society.Is that accurate?<br /><br />At first the latter model mentioned, that of just pulling name of citizens from a hat to go to serve in Washington in Congress, seemed radical. Now that I have had a moment to consider it, I am not sure that would at least be as good as what our current process has devolved in being. When I consider what seems to me to be a Congress that has totally lost its marbles I wonder if we would do worse by just closing our eyes and pointing at names in the phone book, ("Pin the Tail on the Donkey" style) and then putting them in Congress in place of what we have. Then with the terms being limited, replace them in 5 or ten years. <br /><br />Think of the clowns we have now! Many seem bent on intentionally destroying our nation. <br /><br />Anyway, this all is quite interesting as a matter of conversation at least. Thank you both, Neil and Tom, for introducing the concept, to me, at least, and taking the time to lead me through it.<br /><br />RB Kuterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13559291446578456981noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19615457.post-23494407212818064632021-09-24T19:18:54.311-05:002021-09-24T19:18:54.311-05:00"The outcome was a slum development in the ar..."The outcome was a slum development in the area where the dam would have been built."<br /><br />Which state of Australia is this?<br /><br />As far as I know, there's nowhere in Australia that can be labeled a "slum". There are poor areas, but not slums.Neil Cameron (One Salient Oversight)https://www.blogger.com/profile/03143948543305522865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19615457.post-16143519625252351382021-09-24T19:04:40.189-05:002021-09-24T19:04:40.189-05:00Hello
The donkey vote, that is countered on in th...Hello<br /><br />The donkey vote, that is countered on in the USA, IMHO, are the non registered donkey votes of the people who do not vote but complain when the candidate they would have liked to have been elected does not get up. These donkey votes seem to have been hijacked in the last Presidential election and used to great advantage to get the required outcome that the elite desired.<br /><br />I believe it is called rigging.<br /><br />Many year ago in the state where I live in AUST. one of the parties described their corrupt election practices as, "Political expediency," where they promised to do something that satisfied a few constituents if the constituents voted them into power. The party being Politically expedient was a nicer term for them instead of being labelled as a political corrupt party. Both side of politics play this rouse and we get what we deserve.<br /><br />Since then this state has spent billions of $ on attempting to fix the same problem that would have been achieved for the same right outcome for a fraction of a billion dollars back then, but the additional cost which we are now saddled with, is an on going cost for the state, because when that party got elected during that election, they canned a particular utility structure and stopped it being built that would have benefited that area of the state for many years and given security to the population in providing water into the future.<br /><br />The outcome was a slum development in the area where the dam would have been built.<br /><br />I am sure that the same practices also occur in the USA.<br /><br />Shalom <br /><br />PS: - The problems in the USA at present was foretold in the Book of Jeremiah for those who are diligent in their reading of the scriptures because of what they have done over the past 20 years..Tomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16960396811279003662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19615457.post-75323881064399321072021-09-24T17:12:47.395-05:002021-09-24T17:12:47.395-05:00Rise Up!
reminds of a song, this:
https://www....Rise Up! <br /><br />reminds of a song, this:<br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGV9-wC9yfoChristianehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15969310497166526545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19615457.post-69911254227089827552021-09-24T16:59:32.378-05:002021-09-24T16:59:32.378-05:00A picture of the process can be seen here:
https:...A picture of the process can be seen here:<br /><br />https://www.bordermail.com.au/story/6787980/liberal-party-candidate-last-on-ballot-for-by-election/Neil Cameron (One Salient Oversight)https://www.blogger.com/profile/03143948543305522865noreply@blogger.com