tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19615457.post327854742627902321..comments2024-03-28T11:32:15.421-05:00Comments on <center>Istoria Ministries Article Archive</center>: Presidents, Vaccines, Mr. Edwards, and ConfidenceWade Burlesonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01968442835088008681noreply@blogger.comBlogger30125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19615457.post-89798727114614900702021-10-15T15:26:36.900-05:002021-10-15T15:26:36.900-05:00Sam,
The "article" you wish to see is t...Sam,<br /><br />The "article" you wish to see is the "article" that Vice News made appear as if I wrote it on December 6, 2021, doesn't exist. There is no such "article." <br /><br />The video from Vice News called <a rel="nofollow">What's It Like to Be the Target of a COVID Conspiracy</a> makes a false allegation Istoria Ministries. It acts as if an article I wrote on Sunday, December 6, is the source of the "targeting campaign" against Dr. Oswald. That Vice News video has been viewed nearly 500,000 (as of today) and has over 2,500 comments.<br /><br />Since then, there have been many nasty attempts to discredit Istoria Ministries (me) through editing my Wikipedia page (falsely), going on social media and slandering Istoria, and in general discredit what I write. <br /><br />Vice News intentionally produces the piece to make it look as if I wrote the article that targets Dr. Robert Oswald. They scroll the offensive article on the screen while Dr. Oswald is speaking and HIGHLIGHT the objectionable material. Vice News then "creates a second screen overlay" with <b>Istoria Ministries Blog</b> and the date <b>December 6</b> to make it appear as if I (Istoria Ministries, Wade Burleson) wrote the article that targets Dr. Oswald, what you wish me to "link to the original article." (<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEmn_o3tnrc" rel="nofollow">watch for yourself</a>).<br /><br />Sam, I would link to the article you wish to read if it existed. Thankfully, you are much nicer with your request than others who have been led to believe I targeted Robert Oswald. <br /><br />Three facts about Istoria Ministries:<br /><br />1. <b>I have never written what Vice News makes appear I've written, nor do I even believe it.</b>.<br /><br />2. A commenter who goes by the name SOJOURNER made a COMMENT that she copied and pasted from Facebook (see above Sunday, December 6, 6:33 am). <br /><br />3. As soon as I learned that SNOPES pointed out Sojourn's comment in this comment section (which she said she had "copy and pasted" from Facebook), I came into this same comment stream on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, and wrote a comment that Vice News surely saw before producing their video in September 2021 (nine months later). <br /><br />4. I would like for commenter Truth Seeker (above) and Maria Treakle (regattacrew@gmail.com) to both email at istoriaministries@gmail.com and give me any information you may have of how Vice News made Istoria Ministries out to be the author of the article targeted Dr. Oswald.<br /><br />5. I find it very ironic that Vice News has targeted Istoria Ministries with false information on a video that has spread worldwide. I believe when we receive the emails from Vice News regarding Dr. Oswald and Istoria Ministries, we will find out who is targeting whom. <br /><br /><br />My friends at Richardson, Richardson, and Boudreax in Tulsa, Oklahoma, Gary and Chuck Richardson, are drafting letters to Vice News (headquartered in New York City), Cornell University, and Dr. Robert Oswald. These letters will be sent and will politely ask that Vice News remove the video. If they desire to keep it up, then they must first re-edit and remove Istoria Ministries as the source of the article targeting Dr. Oswald. <br /><br />"We will mete out the measure - more than the measure - of that they have meted out to us. We will have no parlay or truce. You will do your worst and we will our best. Maybe our day is coming soon. Maybe our day is coming now." Winston Churchill, 1941<br /><br /><br /><br /> <br /><br />Wade Burlesonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01968442835088008681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19615457.post-25439606153365232292021-03-13T02:26:48.157-06:002021-03-13T02:26:48.157-06:00Hi. I cam here from the Snopes article that linked...Hi. I cam here from the Snopes article that linked you in their article regardin, well, this> https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/rob-oswald-covid-hoax/<br /><br />I am wondering if you could link me to the original article? I'd like to read it if I could. Please email me the link if you can. I'd appreciate it samuelliljeholm@gmail.comsamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05837894566509712731noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19615457.post-55546730273916965212021-02-22T13:51:23.870-06:002021-02-22T13:51:23.870-06:00I just watched a gentleman do a video on this quot...I just watched a gentleman do a video on this quoting this exactly .....i would like to know who this guy on the video is as he also has apparently a you tube or similar channel with other videos <br />I downloaded the clip to my phone I would like to find his channel and watch the entire video <br />Please email me at regattacrew@gmail.com if you have any helpful info on finding him <br />Thank you! Maria Treaklehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16416817690039768075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19615457.post-19152873121329516322021-02-15T01:11:18.489-06:002021-02-15T01:11:18.489-06:00Can anyone reach Anonymous (or Sojourner) to ask h...Can anyone reach Anonymous (or Sojourner) to ask him to disclose the Source of his "copy and paste " article - " I have a PhD in virology and immunology. I'm a clinical lab scientist and have tested 1500 supposed positive Covid 19 samples ........... " ?<br /><br />The text has been multiplied at more than a dozen sites and created quite a stir concerning its seeming authenticity, which was discredited by fact-checking websites such as snopes and usatoday. The story is unbelievable because it said " We at the 7 universities ..... are now suing the CDC ......." while no other news is covering the event at all !!Truth Seekerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01057538745075687426noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19615457.post-55697198310091015342020-12-29T17:47:04.872-06:002020-12-29T17:47:04.872-06:00Sojourner,
I know we've never met nor do we k...Sojourner,<br /><br />I know we've never met nor do we know each other. Just FYI - Your "copy and paste" comment above about the Ph.D. virologist saying Covid-19 is a "hoax" made it on SNOPES official website. See the <a href="https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/rob-oswald-covid-hoax/?fbclid=IwAR0Fk6Z8Fi9BwEHl7jXll7i189Vab-Z6oMyD-dCrBPZ6jWNytLVOqmEQjI0" rel="nofollow">SNOPES link here.</a> For those who wish not to follow the link, here is what SNOPES said about your comment:<br /><br />"This text has been circulating online since at least Dec. 6, when an anonymous Blogger named “Sojourner” posted it in the comments section of an article published at Wadeburleson.org. At the time, the text was not attributed to Oswald or any other medical professional, and the post’s apparent author, Sojourner, noted in another comment that he/she was “not a professional,” was “merely a hillbilly,” and had simply copied and pasted the message."<br /><br />I am leaving your comment stand - though I don't believe it - because I have faith in the American people to do research on their own and I trust their judgment. I have no problem with SNOPES calling you out for copying and pasting what they deem a "false" comment - and I happen to agree with SNOPES on this one - but I disagree with deleting, censoring, and forbidding comments. I believe in free speech, even in others' free speech that isn't true. Wade Burlesonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01968442835088008681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19615457.post-1305006769659743702020-12-07T13:08:41.785-06:002020-12-07T13:08:41.785-06:00Hello Sojourner,
thanks for the note
hey, nothin...Hello Sojourner,<br /><br />thanks for the note<br /><br />hey, nothing wrong with being a country 'hick'<br /><br />some of our best Americans are country folk, one of my own ancestors was an 'Ancient Planter', named Thomas Gray <br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qap9Qm-Q894Christianehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15969310497166526545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19615457.post-80339128966806474262020-12-07T12:34:09.820-06:002020-12-07T12:34:09.820-06:00Thanks for the delete tip, Rex.
I quit posting ...Thanks for the delete tip, Rex. <br /><br />I quit posting anonymously back when Wade went to google account sign in only since we had deleted our gmail accounts earlier in the year (they have a huge role behind this convid-1984 psyop/social engineering/propaganda). But, not too long ago my wife reminded me we had an old account that never got deleted. Not sure why it presents me as Sojourner? Weird. <br /><br />Heard on the radio a guy quoting a study that found people are twice as likely to fall for a scam if they have a college degree. They didnt learn about street smarts and smelling manipulation and fraud. Colleges and universities have been prepping for this exact moment in time for over a century. <br /><br />I believe that even if Fauci himself announced covid-19 was not real most Americans would still believe it was real. That’s the power of psychological persuasion. Just like 9/11, etc..<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19615457.post-7817631207141957722020-12-07T03:16:35.908-06:002020-12-07T03:16:35.908-06:00Sojourner,
You’ve told us there’s something wron...Sojourner, <br /><br />You’ve told us there’s something wrong with C0VID-19 eleven times: <br />1. Nov. 20, 1:36 PM<br />2. Nov. 2:01 PM<br />3. Nov. 4:07 PM <br />4. Nov. 22 6:18 PM<br />5. Nov. 23 6:22 PM<br />6. Nov. 24 10:05 AM<br />7. Nov. 29 5:54 PM<br />8. Nov. 35 7:20<br />9. Dec. 1 9:49 AM<br />10. Dec. 3 2:28 PM<br />11. Dec. 3 7:07 PM <br /><br />Now, on Dec. 6 at 6:33 AM, you really hit the nail on the head with the truth that is convincing to me. Thank you, thank you!<br /><br />I know some will hate you; especially those that will lose money in failing to sell a vaccine.<br /><br />P.S.<br />If you want to delete any of YOUR comments were you’ve double posted, there’s a symbol at the end of you’re comment that only YOU can see. The symbol looks like a small fire hydrant. <br />Rex Rayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06976501582240117188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19615457.post-65989551816225268852020-12-06T21:23:38.685-06:002020-12-06T21:23:38.685-06:00Christiane - that last double post (sorry) was a s...Christiane - that last double post (sorry) was a simple copy and paste. I am not a professional - merely a hillbilly. Wink wink. <br /><br />Look at all the potential (real) side effects of the fake vaccine for the fake virus. Pg 16<br /><br />https://www.fda.gov/media/143557/download<br /><br />Guillain-Barrésyndrome<br /> Acutedisseminatedencephalomyelitis<br /> Transversemyelitis<br /> Encephalitis/myelitis/encephalomyelitis/ meningoencephalitis/meningitis/ encepholapathy<br /> Convulsions/seizures<br /> Stroke<br /> Narcolepsyandcataplexy<br /> Anaphylaxis<br /> Acutemyocardialinfarction<br /> Myocarditis/pericarditis<br /> Autoimmunedisease<br /> Deaths<br /> Pregnancyandbirthoutcomes<br /> Otheracutedemyelinatingdiseases<br /> Non-anaphylacticallergicreactions<br /> Thrombocytopenia<br /> Disseminatedintravascularcoagulation<br /> Venousthromboembolism<br /> Arthritisandarthralgia/jointpain<br /> Kawasakidisease<br /> MultisystemInflammatorySyndrome in Children<br /> Vaccine enhanced disease<br /><br />Sounds like a depopulation agenda to me. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19615457.post-6743800956067734592020-12-06T20:50:30.830-06:002020-12-06T20:50:30.830-06:00"I believe China and the globalists orchestra..."I believe China and the globalists orchestrated this COVID hoax (the flu disguised as a novel virus) to bring in global tyranny and a worldwide police totalitarian surveillance state, and this plot included massive election fraud to overthrow Trump"<br /><br />Hello Sojourner, are you aware that you are saying the same thing that is coming out of the security forces of the Russian government and is directed towards American citizens? <br />Take another look at your sources of information. Times warrant they we be on our guard as to incoming misinformation and propaganda designed to stir the pot and undermine our faith in our democratic processes. Try cross-referencing everything. Look up the footnotes provided. Track down the 'cred' on the people reporting information. You know the drill, as you present as a person who has professional credentials. It's hard checking sources out, but it's worth it. Hope this helps you. Christianehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15969310497166526545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19615457.post-21716733938605431632020-12-06T13:54:36.559-06:002020-12-06T13:54:36.559-06:00I am not an anti vaxxer, but this vaccine, on a no...I am not an anti vaxxer, but this vaccine, on a novel platform is being pushed out rapidly and so there may be some not yet realized downsides. In animal models for SARS CoV1 hypersensitivity reactions and antibody dependent enhancement of infection of immune cells was seen on challenge with infection by the virus. For both the Pfizer and Maderna vaccines, we know that there have been approximately 160 infections of which apparently 95% have occurred on the placebo arm. That is not many infections in vaccinated folks to see if there are any issues.<br /><br />The public has an odd view of scientists. In general, scientists work in the corner of their own lab space. Data is shared in groups or departments, but there is not a wide sharing of data until it has matured to be published for the fear of being "scooped." Maderna did publish their preliminary toxicity on dose finding. Pfizer's data has not been peer reviewed and the approval would appear to be only peer reviewed through the FDA.<br /><br />This pandemic has been the worst of science and medicine. Remember the retraction of papers from the Lancet and NEJM re: toxicity of hydroxychloroquine? A company made up a data base of supposedly 96,000 cases of COVID. The error was not realized until some docs reading the papers after publishing raised concerns. The company at the route of the fraud (Surgisphere) has apparently gone out of business. I can find no information about what happened to its founder who seemed to be a brilliant guy able to make up things on the fly. The Lancet and NEJM are certainly respected journals, but they were taken but I believe they were also playing into the politicization of the science.<br /><br />This pandemic has been going on for 10 months. We see politicians doubling down on measures that haven't worked (so we are going to do it longer and harder). Testing is of unknown specificity and sensitivity despite the fact that we have been using it for 10 months.....History will not treat this period kindly. The "unintended consequences" are going to be vast and are only beginning to be appreciated. In the mean time, real people are suffering because of the mass hysteria. I believe this virus is real, but I also believe that as we have learned more, we have failed to use that knowledge and we keep doubling down. Cuomo's "we need to fear more" summed it all up -- but in reality, we need to fear less. Masking *may* help and so I do; however, masking will not solve this thing, stay in place will not solve this thing. We need to protect the vulnerable, recognize that there are no guarantees in life and keep living.Celestehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10698723455094876828noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19615457.post-71459637696970529882020-12-06T06:33:33.406-06:002020-12-06T06:33:33.406-06:00“I have a PhD in virology and immunology. I'm ...“I have a PhD in virology and immunology. I'm a clinical lab scientist and have tested 1500 "supposed" positive Covid 19 samples collected here in S. California. When my lab team and I did the testing through Koch's postulates and observation under a SEM (scanning electron microscope), we found NO Covid in any of the 1500 samples. What we found was that all of the 1500 samples were mostly Influenza A and some were influenza B, but not a single case of Covid, and we did not use the B.S. PCR test. We then sent the remainder of the samples to Stanford, Cornell, and a few of the University of California labs and they found the same results as we did, NO COVID. They found influenza A and B. All of us then spoke to the CDC and asked for viable samples of COVID, which CDC said they could not provide as they did not have any samples. <br /><br />We have now come to the firm conclusion through all our research and lab work, that the COVID 19 was imaginary and fictitious. The flu was called Covid and most of the 225,000 dead were dead through co-morbidities such as heart disease, cancer, diabetes, emphysema etc. and they then got the flu which further weakened their immune system and they died. I have yet to find a single viable sample of Covid 19 to work with. We at the 7 universities that did the lab tests on these 1500 samples are now suing the CDC for Covid 19 fraud. the CDC has yet to send us a single viable, isolated and purifed sample of Covid 19. If they can't or won't send us a viable sample, I say there is no Covid 19, it is fictitious. <br /><br />The four research papers that do describe the genomic extracts of the Covid 19 virus never were successful in isolating and purifying the samples. All the four papers written on Covid 19 only describe small bits of RNA which were only 37 to 40 base pairs long which is NOT A VIRUS. A viral genome is typically 30,000 to 40,000 base pairs. With as bad as Covid is supposed to be all over the place, how come no one in any lab world wide has ever isolated and purified this virus in its entirety? That's because they've never really found the virus, all they've ever found was small pieces of RNA which were never identified as the virus anyway. So what we're dealing with is just another flu strain like every year, COVID 19 does not exist and is fictitious. I believe China and the globalists orchestrated this COVID hoax (the flu disguised as a novel virus) to bring in global tyranny and a worldwide police totalitarian surveillance state, and this plot included massive election fraud to overthrow Trump”<br /><br />More people waking up!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19615457.post-13785535677033392222020-12-05T02:49:56.781-06:002020-12-05T02:49:56.781-06:00Can anyone add one day to their life? Please do te...Can anyone add one day to their life? Please do tell me if you can. God is ONE, sovereign, the author and finisher. I don't believe it matters if you are pro mask or anti mask, pro vaccination or anti vaccination. Our science based era lives in an illusion that we have some control. I challenge that thought in love! Only His will and purposes are accomplished. And I know Him, He is the source of all love and goodness. But we have an obscured view of what is "good." Could it be there is mercy in wrath, in the bringing low, in suffering, even death, and we estimate our own opinions of what is good far too high?" Maybe not, I'm nobody, so if someone can show me by scripture and prompted by the Spirit otherwise, please do so. He is salvation and He is where my security lies. Glory be to Him alone! Lindseyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13891535681137067431noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19615457.post-12954319234708340172020-12-04T10:40:53.759-06:002020-12-04T10:40:53.759-06:00Wade,
It was good to read the reasons that masks i...Wade,<br />It was good to read the reasons that masks is not the answer by smart people. Below is an old story.<br /><br /> I was praying someone would help me<br />Many years ago, my brother, Hez, and his wife, Bev, were driving in the mountains of Colorado when they saw a dust cloud in the distance. They knew someone had driven off the road. <br /> Several cars had stopped by the time they got there. Hez started down the mountain and met two men and a 15-year-old-boy coming up.<br /> “The car’s on fire and about to explode!”<br /> “Is anyone inside?”<br /> “A woman, but ;she’s stuck, and we couldn’t reach her.”<br /> “I’m going down.”<br /> “I’ll go with you”, said the boy.<br />The car was on fire, upside down, and the roof was crushed; the lady was in a small ‘tunnel’.<br /> Hez said to the lady, “Can you hear me?”<br /> “Yes, I’ve been praying someone would help me!”<br /> I’m going to hold on to your hair, and this boy will pull us out!”<br />They drug her behind a large rock and laid down a few minutes before the car exploded. <br /> After a while, an ambulance crew came down and took the woman. They never heard the end of the story. <br />Rex Rayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06976501582240117188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19615457.post-80425609204896928582020-12-03T21:05:32.822-06:002020-12-03T21:05:32.822-06:00Wade: Actually, you are relying on your personal o...Wade: Actually, you are relying on your personal opinion that this particular scientist’s view is more credible than that of the majority of the scientific community.<br /><br />My personal opinion is that the scientific majority’s view is more credible than any one particular scientist. This majority view comes about through collaboration and research validation over time.<br /><br />And that is the crux of our disagreement on this. I firmly believe that most of the scientific community are very, very good people who have given their time and efforts to keep us as healthy as possible. They are to be honored, not denigrated as being puppets for a supposed “New World Order” movement. I shudder to think of the world we would inhabit had scientists not poured themselves into using their God-given talents for research and treatment of the various illnesses humans acquire.<br /><br />I intend this to be my last word on this post. There is no good reason for further point by point elucidation of our differing stances. It is obvious that we will never agree. I am not leaving mad – I am just leaving :-)Ruthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08028728988718117138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19615457.post-67125766636691593582020-12-03T19:07:33.658-06:002020-12-03T19:07:33.658-06:00Thanks for the reply, Wade.
The evidence of em...Thanks for the reply, Wade. <br /><br />The evidence of emf damage to plant, animal, and human is simply overwhelming and disheartening. Some have estimated that we are being exposed a billion times more than previous generations were just fifty years ago, yet very little government funded research is taking place for our protection. <br /><br />Decades of studies prove our minds can be manipulated with emf’s. From 30 years ago (think of the technological progress made since then):<br /><br />“In a ‘psychotronic war’ using microwaves modulated using ELF waves, it would no longer be necessary to kill whole armies by inducing cardiac or respiratory irregular signals. The enemy can simply be incapacitated by disturbing their states of balance or confusing the ability to think logically”<br /><br />http://csglobe.com/mass-mind-control/<br /><br />Multitudes of patents filed:<br /><br />https://www.bigbrotherwatchingus.com/official-mind-control-patents.html<br /><br />Good comprehensive article: <br /><br />https://ecfsapi.fcc.gov/file/1060927842647/irradiated.pdf<br /><br />I’m convinced like many others there is no such valid proof that this current pandemic health crisis is caused by a so called virus when there is so much evidence that fraud and corruption are the driving force behind it (diabolical). Heard someone might offer a two million dollar reward if they can prove the virus exists. Also check out the science of Psychoneuroimmunology.<br /><br />What the 1% technocratic elite are warning us about - another plandemic but worse than covid-1984. Coming this winter to a town near you:<br /><br />https://truthcomestolight.com/world-economic-forum-warns-about-a-coming-cyber-plan-demic-faster-more-significant-in-devastation-than-covid/<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19615457.post-73726178731212634882020-12-03T18:59:00.433-06:002020-12-03T18:59:00.433-06:00I did find this, but it may be too soon to see ...I did find this, but it may be too soon to see 'reactions' to the ideas presented:<br /><br />https://www.mediamatters.org/laura-ingraham/fox-guest-says-covid-vaccine-downright-dangerous-and-will-send-you-your-doomChristianehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15969310497166526545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19615457.post-83032284184764597892020-12-03T16:58:06.218-06:002020-12-03T16:58:06.218-06:00Ruth,
You write, "“Personal opinion about th...Ruth,<br /><br />You write, "“Personal opinion about the lack of validity for mandates should never cause us to inadvertently endanger others in the case we are wrong. Heaven knows, I am wrong often enough to realize that I am not perfect – and neither is anyone else.”<br /><br />It's not my personal opinion. <br /><br />One of the most important books you'll read this year is linked below. The first author of the book, Dr. Sucharit Bhakdi, is a Thai-German microbiologist. His co-author, Dr. Karina Reiss, is a microbiologist as well. She studied biology at the University of Kiel where she received her Ph.D. in 2001, later becoming a professor of microbiology at the University of Kiel. Dr. Reiss has published over sixty articles in the fields of cell biology, biochemistry, inflammation, and infection, which have gained international recognition and received prestigious honors and awards. Drs. Bhadki and Reiss write:<br /><br />"We are not aware of any single scientifically sound and undisputed article that would contradict the following:<br /><br /> 1) There is no scientific evidence that symptom-free people without cough or fever spread the Corona disease. <br />2) Simple masks do not and cannot stop the Covid-19.<br />3) Masks do not and cannot protect from infection. <br />4) Non-medical face masks have a very low filter efficiency <br />5) Cotton surgical masks can be associated with a higher risk of penetration of microorganisms (penetration 97%). Moisture retention, reuse of cloth masks, and poor filtration may result in increased risk of infection"<br /><br /><a href="https://www.satrakshita.com/Books/Corona_False_Alarm.pdf?fbclid=IwAR0Dc52upADUrLuMz__ps88qxwPi3pgOT9yAkXfiI-O8RjhIX_H-J2IxC4o" rel="nofollow">To read their entire, newly released book on Corona, click on this link for a downloadable PD."</a>Wade Burlesonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01968442835088008681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19615457.post-34565628565338712632020-12-03T16:51:49.090-06:002020-12-03T16:51:49.090-06:00Wade: We will have to “agree to disagree” on the m...Wade: We will have to “agree to disagree” on the mask mandates, but you did not respond to my final statements.<br /><br />“Personal opinion about the lack of validity for mandates should never cause us to inadvertently endanger others in the case we are wrong. Heaven knows, I am wrong often enough to realize that I am not perfect – and neither is anyone else.”<br /><br />I am assuming you are not claiming perfection.<br /><br />The examples you list of the work your church does are exemplary, and I agree it is part of protecting the helpless. But it is not correct to say that requiring masks is equivalent to giving drugs or alcohol to an addict. We don’t know who will be impacted by this in all cases, such as my friend who died; he was not considered to be high risk at all. So this really can’t be equated to “enabling the healthy”.<br /><br />I will not continue to beat a dead horse on this subject but I do hope that you at least consider what I and others have said. None of us know at this point in time who is right and who is wrong – but I prefer to err on the side of caution so I am not the cause of someone else’s suffering or death.<br /><br />Thanks for the discussion.Ruthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08028728988718117138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19615457.post-11053758890824337862020-12-03T15:32:34.479-06:002020-12-03T15:32:34.479-06:00Hello WADE,
it is a matter of one's private c...Hello WADE,<br /><br />it is a matter of one's private conscience and in my faith a person's private conscience is between them and God . . . <br /><br />so I have no authority to 'tell you' nor would I assume that authority, but the evidence is that for our country, where there has been so much resistance to taking even the simplest precautions, we are approaching a greater crisis where our healthcare workers will be likely overwhelmed and there may not be enough staff to go around even if emergency temporary facilities are set up to handle the covid. . . . <br /><br />I propose some ideas from the Judeo-portion of Judeo-Christian tradition but also I am extremely knowledgeable about the devotion of the reformed Christian people who watch over Eastern Christian Childrens' Retreat in Wyckoff NJ, <br />so I was addressing their devotion to self-giving as a witness to their faith. <br /><br />We see things 'differently', but I am grateful for the opportunity to share my point of view and I thank you for that privilege. I do not yet comprehend your position fully, but I am open to trying to do so, and in the meantime, please don't think I am disrespecting your stand as being one of conscience before God also. <br /><br />The question is for me: what is possible for me to do that can help my vulnerable neighbor and how can I best honor that obligation in the sight of God.<br /><br />It's a personal matter. We see from different perspectives. I realize that. There is a tremendous amount of disinformation out there and people are unknowingly influenced by it.<br />We are all doing the best we can to make some sense of where we must be in regards to caring for one another at this special time in our country. Good will come soon, hopefully.Christianehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15969310497166526545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19615457.post-71865128593865683392020-12-03T15:26:52.997-06:002020-12-03T15:26:52.997-06:00https://www.fda.gov/emergency-preparedness-and-res...https://www.fda.gov/emergency-preparedness-and-response/coronavirus-disease-2019-covid-19/covid-19-vaccines<br /><br />“Vaccine Status: Currently, there is no FDA-approved or authorized vaccine for the prevention of COVID-19.”<br /><br />Wade, do you feel a little battered after Ruth and Christiane have been ‘beating’ on you? :) <br />Rex Rayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06976501582240117188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19615457.post-42960504011018498362020-12-03T15:18:05.732-06:002020-12-03T15:18:05.732-06:00"Our Lord came to reconcile us to God AND to ..."Our Lord came to reconcile us to God AND to reconcile us to one another. If we look at the pandemic as a HUMANE concern, then we come to His questions of us in our interactions with others for 'the sake of the other."<br /><br />Amen, Christianne. The pandemic is real. It is a humanitarian crisis. Trusting in masks, vaccines, or anything else from the LORD will ultimately let you down. I'm not against mask - wear one. I'm not against vaccines - take one. I'm against you telling me I must because I do not for a moment believe me wearing a mask or me taking a vaccine will protect one single human being. If I were, I'd do both. Wade Burlesonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01968442835088008681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19615457.post-79319078995122187892020-12-03T15:15:44.469-06:002020-12-03T15:15:44.469-06:00Ruth,
"In our nation, the proud seem to be t...Ruth,<br /><br />"In our nation, the proud seem to be those who feel they are above any personal restrictions or mandates to protect the helpless."<br /><br />You don't give alcoholics alcohol. You don't give drug addicts drugs. You don't enable. If I were convinced that masks truly worked to protect other people and/or myself and/or my family, I'd wear one. Because I'm not convinced, I refuse to wear a mask except around the vulnerable or the sick. I will not wear one around the healthy. If I did, in my mind, I'd be enabling people to believe a lie. In terms of "protecting the helpless," I'd love to introduce you to the women who's lives have been saved in the REFUGE at the WELL home for women we built this year, or the men whose lives have been saved in the OASIS ministry we run, or the homeless who have a warm bed to sleep in tonight because of the MERCY house and the kitchen we built to cook the vegetables and chicken we've taught those in the MERCY House to harvest. I understand protecting the helpless.<br /><br />I refuse to enable the healthy.Wade Burlesonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01968442835088008681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19615457.post-7695040021121368262020-12-03T15:11:30.157-06:002020-12-03T15:11:30.157-06:00Sojourner,
I have not. I promise, though, I'm...Sojourner,<br /><br />I have not. I promise, though, I'm doing some research. I've read some things you've written and it's not I'm opposed to what you've said, it's just that I don't know enough right now - but I am reading. Wade Burlesonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01968442835088008681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19615457.post-62079316418369765302020-12-03T14:28:23.135-06:002020-12-03T14:28:23.135-06:00Wade, thanks always for reminding us to trust in G...Wade, thanks always for reminding us to trust in God in spite of our present circumstances. <br /><br />Curious - have you put much time into researching the effects of electromagnetic radiation on the human mind and body?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com